Land prices and standard land value and tips for land search

I have a young architect in the family. He graduated from an art academy and now works in a very renowned architectural firm that exclusively designs wooden houses (including public buildings). When I recently talked to him about our house planning, I thought I was hit by a stroke: • House? Why a house? You have a 4-room apartment! • 170m2? Are you crazy? • Double garage? Compacting the ground for a car parking space? A NO GO! • Balcony? Not possible, too uneconomical! • Dormer? No space for photovoltaic system! • Bay window with flat roof? Only heat loss and no added value!

Young architects no longer see a future in single-family houses. Existing buildings should be renovated and building gaps filled. New housing developments are out anyway :rolleyes:.

Hmm, I would now say that from my point of view the young architect is quite right on most points.

Hmm, I would say that the young architect is quite right on most points from my perspective.

I knew it very differently during my student days. In my student fraternity, there were many architects but also civil engineers. Back then it was said: "If it should look nice, ask the architect. If it should work, ask the civil engineer" :)

I think, however, that the current policy is not consistently thought through to the end.

I simply do not see any sensible planning of land consumption based on demand.

I agree with you, there is still too much patchwork. Better than not addressing it at all. The release of more land is definitely not the solution.

When one allocates the scarce building land available to a municipality almost exclusively to local residents who commute every day to the city after next, that is ecologically quite questionable.

Yes, ecologically it is questionable – jobs or working locally would make more sense. We have actually learned a lot recently: home office works better than many had feared. Societally, it does make sense first to strengthen one’s own community. Even here, designating more land is not a solution. Respect for the achievement of you and many other parents who, with courage, confidence, and focus, seized opportunities in the 60s to 90s and thereby opened up chances for their children. Back to building land: despite all the frustration – there are plots, and to win the competition for this scarce resource, you really have to actively invite luck. Have you ever looked at the compulsory auctions at the district court? For example, on July 1, there are 2 properties at the district court Gütersloh. We bought our plot from the insolvency estate of a property developer.

It has already been explained close to what I mean by . When you have found a point of interest, you look around the respective areas on foot. I have never advocated wearing out your soles in the process. To my Barthel tips, add those from , then there should not be many paths leading away from success.

Yes, just as describes it, it also sounds much more plausible to me. As I said, I wasn’t sure with you whether you meant what you wrote seriously or if you wanted to pull my leg...

Yes, ecologically that is questionable – jobs or working on site would make more sense. We've learned a lot recently: home office works better than many had feared. Socially, it makes sense to strengthen your own community first. Here, too, designating more space is not a solution.

Yes, home office is a great thing, I have already advocated it before Corona. It works for me as well since I have a desk job. Still, occasional presence on site is necessary. And a large part of the workforce in my company works in production and assembly, they have to commute anyway. And the manufacturing industry is mostly found in industrial areas around cities, so all the skilled workers who do not have to afford a house in the countryside must commute from their rental cubicles in the big city out to the country, while the locals who work in the service sector are traveling the opposite way on the counter-lane.

Ever looked at forced auctions at the district court? On July 1, for example, there are 2 properties at the Gütersloh district court. We bought our plot from an insolvency estate of a developer.

Yes, through my search on real estate portals, I also came across foreclosure properties and am currently reading up on all the formalities and procedures. In Bielefeld, a large plot in Stukenbrock will be auctioned soon; I had already considered trying my luck there. However, it is a partition auction, and I think the co-owners will bid fiercely.

which we definitely do not want to sell (because we want to build on it ourselves later) and just the idea that someone would be ringing our doorbell all the time now is not very pleasant.

I would find that sh*** too. That's why we stroll around a place and then look for direct small talk through third parties.