evelinoz
2020-12-30 08:02:02
- #1
Is it possible to plan an eat-in kitchen with special requests in only 29 m²?
- Erstellt am 2020-12-20 18:58:05
knalltüte
2020-12-31 11:20:32
- #2
Thank you for the numerous suggestions. Unfortunately, the program (Ikea Metod Planer) cannot handle some details, such as a dishwasher installed higher up (which is more important to me than an oven on top). Also, the kitchen island with table would still be adjusted slightly in terms of dimensions (island a bit narrower to leave more table width). But overall, I already like it quite a bit ;)
After past and current discussions with the family, I will have to host all festivities such as the Easter brunch, the second Christmas day, and others for the next 10 years :cool: (I had no opportunity for many years due to lack of suitable living space). Therefore, the table must firstly be constantly "set aside" for 4-5 people (weekend breakfast, etc.) and be significantly expandable for the aforementioned occasions. This is now given here.
Nevertheless, feel free to send suggestions and improvement proposals.
As a note: I would prefer not to have open shelves or upper cabinets. There should be enough storage space even without them, right?
After past and current discussions with the family, I will have to host all festivities such as the Easter brunch, the second Christmas day, and others for the next 10 years :cool: (I had no opportunity for many years due to lack of suitable living space). Therefore, the table must firstly be constantly "set aside" for 4-5 people (weekend breakfast, etc.) and be significantly expandable for the aforementioned occasions. This is now given here.
Nevertheless, feel free to send suggestions and improvement proposals.
As a note: I would prefer not to have open shelves or upper cabinets. There should be enough storage space even without them, right?
knalltüte
2020-12-31 12:07:41
- #3
Funny, just now there was still a post from , now it's gone ??
But I had just read it and swapped the sink with the cooktop. Certainly correct, because the sink is used more often and this way the grease is less spread around the room (but a cooktop with built-in downdraft/extractor fan is planned)
On the right where the oven is visible, the dishwasher would go there at a suitable height (the program can't do that)
The oven would go, for example, under the cooktop.
The tip about half-height drawers already came from my sister, who has some higher ones (for aesthetic reasons) where unfortunately only air is stored in the upper level of the drawer, so useless.
That the island should become narrower overall I had already written. Unfortunately, I cannot draw that here in the planning tool either. If more people come then, the table can be rotated 90° and further extended/drawn out.
But I had just read it and swapped the sink with the cooktop. Certainly correct, because the sink is used more often and this way the grease is less spread around the room (but a cooktop with built-in downdraft/extractor fan is planned)
On the right where the oven is visible, the dishwasher would go there at a suitable height (the program can't do that)
The oven would go, for example, under the cooktop.
The tip about half-height drawers already came from my sister, who has some higher ones (for aesthetic reasons) where unfortunately only air is stored in the upper level of the drawer, so useless.
That the island should become narrower overall I had already written. Unfortunately, I cannot draw that here in the planning tool either. If more people come then, the table can be rotated 90° and further extended/drawn out.
Bertram100
2020-12-31 12:16:43
- #4
yes, zapp, you're right. I wrote down some basic things and then realized the thread was already on page 10; :rolleyes: And I thought to myself that the basics were probably already mentioned.
:D
I would now move the sink a bit to the side so that there is only a narrow edge to the border (about 15 cm). On the side you choose, you can then also install the dishwasher raised in the wall unit (counting from the edge, first or second cabinet. Better immediately the first). Then you can, with one movement, scrape trash into the hopefully raised trash under the countertop at the island, quickly rinse plates if necessary, and with a turn put them into the dishwasher. When unloading, you will inevitably have all the dishes on only one side of the dishwasher, which is very practical.
With Ikea, a dishwasher can be very easily installed at a raised height. That is no problem.
The two small towers are ideal xxxxx storage. I hope you know that. I would go, as in your first draft, rather floor-to-ceiling. That looks a bit more pleasing visually. Especially because you are always with the kitchen in one room.
I think you have planned a drainer with the sink. You can leave it out, not absolutely necessary. That then creates more workspace.
Perhaps I would consider making the island a bit less deep. Not under 80, but 90 or so would be very good for working and help to recognize the structure of the room. So, then the distance from the island to the living area becomes a bit larger. Shortening the island is woodworking. Just shorten so that you come to a size that corresponds to a number of Ikea fronts. I once had 90cm and used 3 fronts of 30cm as the side panel. Looked good.
I think one can feel comfortable in that room.
:D
I would now move the sink a bit to the side so that there is only a narrow edge to the border (about 15 cm). On the side you choose, you can then also install the dishwasher raised in the wall unit (counting from the edge, first or second cabinet. Better immediately the first). Then you can, with one movement, scrape trash into the hopefully raised trash under the countertop at the island, quickly rinse plates if necessary, and with a turn put them into the dishwasher. When unloading, you will inevitably have all the dishes on only one side of the dishwasher, which is very practical.
With Ikea, a dishwasher can be very easily installed at a raised height. That is no problem.
The two small towers are ideal xxxxx storage. I hope you know that. I would go, as in your first draft, rather floor-to-ceiling. That looks a bit more pleasing visually. Especially because you are always with the kitchen in one room.
I think you have planned a drainer with the sink. You can leave it out, not absolutely necessary. That then creates more workspace.
Perhaps I would consider making the island a bit less deep. Not under 80, but 90 or so would be very good for working and help to recognize the structure of the room. So, then the distance from the island to the living area becomes a bit larger. Shortening the island is woodworking. Just shorten so that you come to a size that corresponds to a number of Ikea fronts. I once had 90cm and used 3 fronts of 30cm as the side panel. Looked good.
I think one can feel comfortable in that room.
knalltüte
2020-12-31 12:41:27
- #5
... I think you can feel comfortable in that room. :)
I think so too ;-) Thanks for the many useful tips. Now I have added upper cabinets after all, the wall looks more "pleasing" that way and you can never have enough storage space.
And with the concern that "stuff" accumulates on the half-height cabinets, you hit the nail on the head. I currently have such a block of fridge and apothecary cabinets and it is full of "junk" (well, there is a nice tin of zwieback, but the rest should actually go)
Bertram100
2020-12-31 12:48:03
- #6
Looks good! I think it’s better with upper cabinets. I see that you’ve moved the sink out. You could use an 80 cm cabinet there and install a 60 cm sink flush right. Then a 40 cm cabinet for trash (tall drawer on top) and then fill the rest as generously as possible. I have the same setup and after the sink and trash I have a 60 cm cabinet. That’s super convenient: knives, cutting boards, cereal bowls, and cutlery in the 60 cm one. Everything at hand, "Sister, scalpel, and Tupper." You’ve got everything in front of you. I would then install the dishwasher raised in the tower on the side. Super practical.