Gas price increase as of 1.1.2022

Increased procurement prices are the personal bad luck of companies and must not lead to price increases. This is not allowed - no matter where.

.. and in case of doubt leads to the insolvency of the respective company and then you have to switch to another provider.

Saw a report about this sometime in the last few days; currently some providers are already sending out increases of the advance payment flat rate without there being a billing based on possibly higher consumption values. And that is nothing other than prepayment .. in my opinion to save what can be saved ;).

.. and in case of doubt leads to the insolvency of the respective company and then you also have to switch to another provider.

Yep. You can see that right now with some providers (but in the end, these are just two-person companies trying to make quick money) in the press.

But also with energy supply contracts or telecommunications contracts, as is often the case with consumer goods: who buys the cheapest, buys twice. And the large/reputable providers are often only 5 or 10€ more expensive per year.

Not bad. The price increase confirms my decision to integrate a brine-water heat pump into the new building and support it with a larger photovoltaic system.

I'm happy for you. But don't be upset: Many gas users live in houses that have been standing for quite a while and were built under different conditions. Certain subsidies that you now get with your pumps owai did not exist back then. The interest rates for financing were higher (there used to be 4% and more, but most are probably around 2-3% as a mixed rate with KfW subsidies, which is the only subsidy, mind you). There's no need to rub salt into the wound now. The ultimate standard is very individual... And yes, we also consciously chose green electricity and green gas so that we could in turn co-finance subsidies that benefit the general public (e.g., CO2). That’s probably over now: I now have the feeling that we pay a lot into one pot, which is only taken from by others but neither filled nor used thoughtfully.

A really stupid question. Why are you with the basic supplier and haven’t signed a proper contract with price fixation?

I have a contract with price fixation. Only it sometimes expires.

So, maybe that’s not so stupid at the moment. I just checked, the basic supply tariff with my municipal utilities is currently a hefty 30% CHEAPER than the cheapest offer on comparison portals... Unbelievable, really crazy times....

Something similar was told by my father. I’m currently writing a table ( , I also immortalized your numbers in it for myself, thanks): Simplified: until October 21 we paid €73/month for a consumption of about 11,500 kWh/year. Now we are supposed to pay €163 :( The consumption price was raised from 5.75 to 14.53 ... and for that you waste a vacation day :p:rolleyes:

I'm happy for you. But don't be angry:
Many gas users live in houses that have been standing for a while and were built under different conditions. Certain subsidies that you now get with your pumps owai did not exist back then. The interest rates for financing were higher (there used to be 4% and more, but most are probably around 2-3% in mixed interest with KfW funding, the only subsidy, mind you).
No need to rub salt in the wound now. The yardstick is very individual. ...

And yes, we also deliberately chose green electricity and green gas, so that we could in turn support subsidies that benefit the general public (e.g. CO2). That seems to be over now: I now have the feeling that we are paying a lot into a pot that others only take from, but do not fill or use wisely.

I have a contract with a fixed price. But that also sometimes expires.

My father told me something similar.

I am currently writing a table ( , I have also immortalized your numbers in it for myself, thanks):

Simplified: until October 21, at an annual consumption of about 11,500 kWh, we paid €73/month. Now we are supposed to pay €163 :(
The consumption price was raised from 5.75 to 14.53 ... and for that you waste a vacation day :p:rolleyes:

I no longer take anything here badly :-) But I know a lot of builders from the area who still built or are still building with gas boilers in the last 2 years. It’s clear that gas boilers were previously the better heating method, e.g. compared to oil heating. But nowadays, building with gas seems outdated to me.

... this is nothing other than advance payment .. in my opinion to save what can be saved

This rather reminds me of the so-called oil crisis in 1973. In my opinion, they wanted to get out what can be gotten.

And for this purpose, the fully loaded oil tankers were parked in the North Sea at that time to restrict oil deliveries (reported by a former radio operator on the freighters).

Many gas users live in houses that have been standing for a while and were built under different conditions. Certain subsidies that you now get with your pumps owai did not exist back then. Interest rates for financing were higher (there used to be 4% and more, but most are probably around 2-3% in mixed interest rates with the KfW subsidy, the only subsidy mind you) There’s no need to rub salt in the wound now. The ultimate measure is very individual. ...

Yes, that applies to some here, and as a heat pump/photovoltaic advocate, you don’t have to act smart about it. But unfortunately, the opposite is also true: there are indeed forum members who elevate their own (mis)decision as the ultimate measure and still claim here that heat pumps are more expensive complicated nonsense; photovoltaics unprofitable; gas has risen much less in price than electricity over the last x decades; gas will be around forever; and if not, it will just be ‘greener’ hydrogen, etc. And with such nonsense, gas boilers are then promoted. At least in new buildings in a house-building forum, it would be nice if this nonsense stopped sometime.

Of course, it’s no use settling this on an individual level. Actually, this should be the task of responsible, forward-looking government action. But as soon as you do nothing for sixteen years, problems pile up. Really couldn’t have been foreseen.

On topic: I do think there are currently special effects that will normalize again. Nevertheless, prices of fossil stuff will tend to go up.