Gas price increase as of 1.1.2022

  • Erstellt am 2021-11-14 23:03:33

Bookstar

2021-11-20 23:34:49
  • #1
It doesn’t just affect gas. With heat pumps, it’s even more extreme. We’ve paid 21 cents so far and now the cheapest is 26 cents or right after that 30 cents. So 30 to 50% increase in one year. That means several hundred euros more in heating costs. Pretty intense.
 

OWLer

2021-11-20 23:49:37
  • #2
In the planning, I had not even found such values. I calculated everything for myself at 30 cents. So far, it looks quite good. About 4-6 months ago, there was reportedly a sweet spot where I thought, "Wow, electricity has become cheap."
 

Oetzberger

2021-11-21 07:53:17
  • #3
Yes, the increase from 21 to 26 cents is indeed an unexpectedly sharp jump. Even the people from Flensburg apparently have to pass on the price development. I should have done kfw40 or a brine heat pump back then...
 

Pinkiponk

2021-11-21 10:08:16
  • #4

Do you know why the Verbraucherzentrale assumes this or why it should be the case? I had previously thought that the consumption of (green) electricity is politically desired, while the consumption of gas (and oil) is not. Therefore, I was of the opinion that electricity would be heavily favored in the future through fiscal measures and gas would not. (Although I recently read that the SPD and FDP want to designate gas as sustainable energy. However, I have only read the headline so far. ;-) ) I knew that oil and gas prices are somehow linked, but electricity and gas was not known to me until now.
If you have time and feel like it, please write at length and in detail. :) I always find your posts very informative and helpful.
 

Tom1978

2021-11-21 10:22:55
  • #5


Are there statistics on how much more efficient a ground-source heat pump is compared to an air-water heat pump? However, we are having a ground-source heat pump installed with surface collectors (water protection area).
 

ypg

2021-11-21 10:36:41
  • #6
:p Hehe… Thanks ~.~ Well. There is always a link: oil/gas before, now gas/electricity. My "wisdom" in #118 actually came from my Verbraucherzentrale NDS newsletter.
    [*
      Summer in Germany was low in wind and sun, so additional electricity products generated by natural gas have to be used. [*]The phase-out of nuclear power and coal production increases the demand for gas for further electricity production. [*] Source Plusminus, the first: [LIST] [*]The lack of expansion of renewable energies will drive electricity prices up in the coming years [*]Expensive electricity endangers the competitiveness of German companies [*]Voltage fluctuations in the power grid cause problems for medium-sized companies [*]German electricity could become scarce, expensive electricity from foreign nuclear and coal power plants would then have to be purchased
    [*] By 2023, the electricity price could rise from the current nearly 32 to 37 cents per kilowatt hour. According to experts, the slow expansion of renewable energies is mainly responsible. [*] [*] The price increase in electricity is directly related to the hesitant expansion of renewable energies, explains Prof. Jürgen Karl from the University of Nuremberg-Erlangen. To ensure security of supply in Germany, conventional fossil fuel power plants have to compensate for the supply gap when there is too little green electricity. "As long as we can provide so little renewable energies, it is simply the case that expensive gas power plants, even oil power plants have to be used increasingly," says Prof. Jürgen Karl. "The more often we have to use these expensive gas power plants, the more expensive the electricity price becomes." The fact that the expansion of renewables is progressing too slowly has been ignored by the federal government for years — experts agree on this assessment. This development has consequences for the electricity price of the future. The expansion of onshore wind power, for example, has almost come to a halt due to setback regulations. In addition, partly years-long approval procedures significantly delay the expansion.
 

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