Special floor plan or boring with basement?

  • Erstellt am 2023-10-08 22:40:44

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 21:52:30
  • #1


Thank you – we have completely ignored the windows/doors so far because we are currently focusing on the biggest construction issues: floor plan/rooms and basement or no basement, and we are actually already overwhelmed with these decisions.



Thank you for your experiences, that definitely gives hope that nothing is lost yet :) And nice that you are satisfied with your choice. Did you then have your floor plan drawn up by an independent architect, or did you work it out with the prefabricated house manufacturers, or did you once again plan a new floor plan with the construction company on site afterward?

Hi Andreas, I completely agree with you. That is already exactly on our wishlist for the architect when he gets back from vacation. The two children's rooms must be the same size and both get the nice south-facing location.



We don't like the whole area either; something definitely needs to be changed here. But we also wanted the pantry to fully extend, and not have so much wasted space in the kitchen. So there's still quite a bit to be adjusted here.



Good tip. We already started that in Sweet Home 3D. But when you have to shrink everything again, soon the furniture no longer fits...
 

haydee

2023-10-09 22:42:15
  • #2
Downsizing does not mean switching to dollhouse furniture.

For example, the 3 bar stools in the kitchen disappear and the space including the traffic area belongs to the living room. Almost all storage space in the pantry fits in the space of the hidden door. The sauna moves to the bathroom or later as an outdoor sauna in the garden. As long as there is only 1 child, the 2nd children's room will be a study; later the workplace moves to the dressing room.

Think it over again. Sort everything by must-have and nice-to-have. It does no good if money worries make you sweat and you therefore do not need the sauna.

Rensch-Haus has the Clou line for affordable houses. You get Rensch-Haus quality with very limited options for customization. You have to be able to handle that. 2 or 3 floor coverings, everything else costs money. Ask around if there are smaller carpentry companies that always build only one house.
 

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 23:00:14
  • #3


A basement could be built, but due to the waterproof concrete tank, possibly uplift protection, more excavation + disposal, significant additional costs will arise for us. I’m attaching the soil report, but even according to the basement rule from 11Ant, it sounds more like it’s "sensible" to build without a basement.



Is there a rule of thumb for how much the house would/could be enlarged for that? If I use €3,500/m² and thus get about 20m² of space each in the upper floor + attic? No basement would also mean that we need a gabled roof instead of our desired hipped roof for the storage area. How can I imagine a partial roof expansion on a gabled roof? And are there any basic values on how much a half storey with a high knee wall approximately costs, so that one has a rough estimate of how much the floor area could actually be increased.


I’m afraid so... unless the architect can still perform some magic and somehow make it great after all by solving the kitchen/dining/pantry situation better, and we’d be satisfied with a rectangle as well.
 

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 23:12:20
  • #4
Here is our soil report for the experts :)
 

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 23:18:25
  • #5


Yes, a cellar is obviously expensive on our plot due to poor soil conditions and not really sensible because of the slight slope.

The soil report is in the previous post: and it also contains photos of the plot.

The northern property boundary is still negotiable; it will only be subdivided once the house floor plan and location are finalized.
I uploaded an aerial photo with the surroundings here:
The architect had the soil report and planned based on it. No survey plan is available yet, as our first step with the architect should be the building inquiry.
 

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 23:30:59
  • #6

We have already thought along these lines to get the rectangle "right". See attachment – it’s not nice, clumsily created with SweetHome3D. What exactly do you mean by the storage space of the pantry and the hidden space of the door?


We crossed that out first (or rather the shower planned there earlier).

Here it is quite likely that child 2 will be there until the house is finished… but in the beginning you don’t need a children's room. Child 1 currently doesn’t have one either for space reasons, at 2.5 years old.

Thanks for the tip. We’ll have a look at Rensch-Haus then. The name put me off a bit because it reminded me of cheap stuff – and since there is so much selection elsewhere, it wasn’t really in close consideration.
Are such smaller carpentries really worth a try? I have heard several times that they simply lack the experience, so it takes much longer to build and more mistakes happen. Or that as a small company they are significantly more expensive.
 

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