Floor plan design: Single-family house; 140 sqm; without basement; 730 sqm plot

  • Erstellt am 2024-03-01 08:55:39

hanghaus2023

2024-03-09 15:08:36
  • #1
This is also how you can plan the staircase.

 

kbt09

2024-03-09 16:37:25
  • #2
That would certainly be much better, and the approach worm from the children's room was only used to produce sqm anyway.
 

ypg

2024-03-09 21:31:34
  • #3

I find that too small or rather too short as a main wall. That’s just three tall cabinets of 60cm width plus a corner for the countertop. The rest is basically space for assembly. The stove is drawn in, but not the sink anymore, the workspace will be little to none.
The wish for an island is not achievable.

As said above. That only works in a large area. Impractical anyway, as you can’t reach the upper cabinets without a stool. And the workspace simply isn’t there.
Instead, in the compact kitchen you get overwhelmed by the cabinet wall.

In addition, you have to move through the whole ground floor to reach the heart of the house.


In principle, the staircase is poorly chosen for the house width and also wrongly placed. I wouldn’t plan a kitchen in a single-family house under 3.00/3.60 meters plus assembly space. Ok, if the house should be compact, then 3 meters work. But then I wouldn’t want to do without a window above the sink and would rather think of a U-shaped kitchen.
A compact house rather does not benefit from a straight staircase. It consumes too much hallway space.

I also notice that the architect doesn’t value daylight where it would be needed — that would be behind the countertop and at the side of the washbasin in the bathroom. But what I consider crucial is the entrance problem in the bathroom.

The house would probably benefit from an extension. However, that costs more money again.

In principle, that fits. You have to reckon that no additional stool fits in there, and there’s not much space for dancing.

I find that okay as an office. However, the south side could get a bit strenuous because too much light can be dazzling.


Why? The house itself including guest WC and office is not wheelchair accessible at all, so why widen the doors?
Living room door is okay, it can also be glass and inviting—I would, for example, want to look through on the sightline from the entrance door to the garden. Unfortunately, there is no window planned there on the west side.
How is the building envelope? Where is the street? Access? Development? Why is the house set so far back? Why is the carport even further to the rear?

I would probably swap living room and kitchen. Dining and barbecue area in the north, central kitchen location, and living room at the back for privacy when watching TV.
Both children’s rooms could fairly get the western rooms.
I would place the guest WC at the entrance so you can quickly and immediately use the toilet after the garden or daily work.
 

numerobis

2024-03-11 08:47:08
  • #4
Wow! Many thanks for the many comments. Unfortunately, we were out over the weekend and I couldn’t respond promptly. I’m still struggling a bit with the comment function – please be a little patient. But I have tried to reply to some.

Brief exec. summary:
- The ground floor does not need to be wheelchair accessible and/or planned for old age with dementia
- Ceiling heights > 2.67m are probably really not suitable for our project.
- Due to the building envelope, we have to build relatively centrally
- The straight staircase could become a real eye-catcher on the ground floor and we basically like it (the unusual step dimensions and the elongated hallways would be acceptable)
- The upper rooms on the 'north side' of the house should not become smaller

And now the attempt to comment on some posts.

Wishing everyone a sunny start to the week,
Numerobis


It was the architect’s idea. I like it. The higher steps (19.2cm) would also be okay for us.


Moving the staircase further up would come at the expense of other rooms. In my opinion, the utility room and bathroom cannot become smaller. So the idea is to extend the house about 0.6m to the south.


We would like a fixed staircase to the attic and not a pull-out staircase. Therefore, the wall is probably needed for mounting.


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Ok. Ceilings >2.70m are probably really nothing for compact houses – I understand that :/ Storage compartments in airy heights for things you use once a year I still find okay (e.g., Easter, Christmas stuff, ...). I have also considered the idea of swapping living room and kitchen. But the space for the living room is too small for me.


I rather fear that everything has been optimized for room size and the hallways could be very small and somehow 'hotel-like’.

Upstairs, there are three skylights planned on the north side, also one in the bathroom. Daylight should therefore be sufficient. We are still not sure in the kitchen whether the window should/must be floor-to-ceiling. Although we have been getting along well without a window behind the countertop for almost 5 years.

The wide doors are planned for guests. Therefore, the living room and WC are important; office unnecessary. We would probably rather move if we wanted/had to live on one level in old age.


I like the idea of the sightline.
The building envelope is pretty central on the almost 40m long plot. We have about 6m leeway north/south. Currently, the house is planned fairly far to the north in the building envelope. That way, we would have about 10m north garden for midsummer and about 20m south garden for the rest of the year – and the nice view.
We would like the carport next to the house. In the southeast it would block view and light.
 

hanghaus2023

2024-03-11 10:01:57
  • #5
If you can make the house slightly bigger like this? 12 m2 * 3 k = 36 k additional costs.

I did draw the utility room and the bathroom after all. The 40 cm don’t stand out there. The bathroom doesn’t work anyway, that should be looked at more critically again.

I also immediately provided the solution for the stairs to the attic.
 

numerobis

2024-03-11 10:51:45
  • #6

The utility room and the living room on the ground floor are currently 3m deep. In my opinion, that's already borderline (in the living room we would like to put our sofa against the wall to the right of the living room door and 10 sqm utility room already sounds like Tetris).

We have already decided against a bathtub for the bathroom. Otherwise, it would really be very small with little space for storage surfaces.

Let's see what the extension would cost in the end. I hope it will be somewhat less than €3k / sqm. We have also decided against a few other cost drivers (room height > 2.67m, bathtub, satellite system, blinds on the roof windows facing north, sophisticated smart home equipment, ...).

In the end, we would not decide against building a house because of €20k or €30k. But we would if we were not convinced by the room concept.

Oh yes. For the attic, as I said, we do not want a folding ladder - that was your suggestion, right?
 

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