Floor plan design for city villa with 168 sqm - Who has ideas?

Why not? Why does the wish of the builders for a certain type of house have to be questioned?

1. If they want to build a city villa, they can do that as far as I'm concerned (we have one ourselves). 2. See below:

We have already signed for a city villa. Why? We don't want slanted walls.

Then tell the architect that you don't want slanted walls and then wait for his proposal. That's what he's there for.

I don't want to get hung up on the city villa either. For me it's about the principle :P. You don't want slanted walls --> say so. You want storage space for cabinets --> say so. But stop planning it yourselves .

Dear forum members,

Today I would like to present to you my new floor plan draft. I tried to take your suggestions to heart and put myself in the hands of an architect. The current draft was preceded by an approximately four-hour conversation with him. He had looked at my previous drafts (which was a mistake, I know) and then discussed them with me. After that, I incorporated his suggestions into a new draft and would like to hear your opinion on it. Although the architect made an effort, in the end I was not really happy. I think sometimes we talked past each other. I have changed a few things:

Stairs: For example, I have now rotated the (open) staircase. My idea was that there is now more space at the house entrance, less dirt is carried onto the stairs, and the guest room is easier to access. However, the entrance to the children's room is currently located right at the staircase exit (daughter about 2.5 years old when moving in), and you have to walk a bit more to get to the bedroom and the study.

Guest WC: I wanted to carve out some space in the utility room in the form of a niche and took a little bit from the guest WC.

Kitchen: In the kitchen, I have only sketched in the appliances and a few cabinets as a first glance.

What do you think of the floor plan? What mistakes have I made? Is there anything you really don't like? What can be improved?

I don't think it's that bad at all. I find the missing zoning between dining/living area an absolute no-go - the table extends too much into the relaxation area for my taste. I would recess the kitchen more; for that, some space needs to be taken from the utility room and WC (the space is available) so the kitchen can extend towards the west. Upstairs there is definitely a lack of storage space, so I would place the dressing room in the middle east, turn the current dressing room into a storage/laundry room, and let the child and office share the south side (child smaller!). The architect hasn’t made a plan for you, right? You only had a consultation? Best regards in brief

Are these now the 11 m x 9.50 m? It somehow looks smaller. Unfortunately, I don't like it either, sorry.

I can understand the question "does it have to be an urban villa" very well. At the moment, everyone is building some kind of urban villa, and this leads to uniform new housing developments that are more than boring. That's why I find the question justified. I would often wish for a bit more architectural spirit and individuality when I walk through new housing developments. Most houses are interchangeable and, sorry, boring. Personally, I haven't been able to look at these "urban villas" for a long time.

But this is already settled here, if I understand correctly, right? The contract is signed, so it will be a house from a building provider and therefore most likely a standard floor plan with slight personal modifications. Otherwise, the decision between two fixed square meter numbers probably wouldn't have been necessary, because a freely planned house only has to comply with the floor area ratio and the building plan, and there is much more freedom for individual planning and, above all, ideas!

Personally, it pains me when everything is built so standardized and the chance for something truly creative is not used, even though obviously the necessary financial means would be available.
A pity!

A few considerations on the present floor plan from my side:
I occasionally work from home, and currently we do NOT have the study on the same level as the kitchen/living area. I cannot recommend that. At least I like to get a tea/coffee/water/snack now and then, and each time I trudge up and down the stairs. Then the postman comes, I trudge the stairs again, etc. I would therefore use the guest room on the ground floor rather as a multifunctional room. With only 5 overnight guests per year, that shouldn't be a problem. And if my little gray cells don't fail me, there was talk of commercial use as well. Could it be that sometimes customers or other strangers have to go into the study? Then, for me personally, having a study in the private area would be an absolute no-go (just the thought that the partner might be sick and lying in bed while a customer is in the office next door and you have to go through the corridor to the bathroom... nooooo, that simply won't work!).

I agree with you that if you have the space, you should primarily make it available to family members. So, a large children's room is nice. But you really have to ask yourself to what extent it will be used. When we were children, we mainly played in the children's room. Maybe on weekends sometimes in the living room, but the toys were then neatly put back in the children's room in the evening. We were rarely allowed to leave anything in the living room overnight. Our main activity space was the children's room, and our children's rooms were comfortable at 16 sq m for the standards at the time.
But nowadays I increasingly see that most children occupy the living room and most of the toys are there, and the children play mostly there. Now you could start a fundamental discussion about whether that is okay and whether one can't have a room where the adults' concerns (order???) take priority or not, but think about how it is for you.
If the little one will mainly be in the living room, such a huge suite as you are planning here doesn't really make sense. It will be a ballroom where a small child will almost feel lost in the evening when it is dark and she lies alone in the room.
And the little child will eventually become a teenager, then a bigger room is definitely appropriate, but even here, better planning could be done:
How about planning a small living unit for the daughter in the upper floor? Two rooms and a small bathroom in between. Now, as a toddler, she uses one room as a children's room, maybe the second as a playroom if it is not the living room. Or you use this room with the small bathroom next door as a guest room until the daughter needs it. (and as long as this is the case, the office on the ground floor is purely an office and then later becomes the multifunctional room).
Because, and this is another point I throw in for consideration:
The bathroom upstairs is nice, but nothing more. For three people I find it rather tight, especially since not even two sinks are planned. That causes bottlenecks, if not already with a toddler, then certainly with the expected teenager!
So I would clearly plan two areas here: one side parents, one side daughter (with 2 rooms, sleeping - living and a small bathroom). The daughter will not fully use her side currently but will be happy about her own little realm later as a teenager. It might even be worth considering whether to already install connections for a small kitchen unit in the daughter's future living room. I had a friend who had such an area with a small kitchen for herself when her parents built a new house. I thought that was great and was very jealous!
And you get a bathroom-time-intensive teenager out of your bathroom. Believe me, that contributes to your well-being!
I also would not be 100% happy with the dressing room solution because the one who gets up earlier will always disturb the one who can still sleep. Maybe that can also be softened a bit.

Overall, the design is nice but far from innovative.
How about you: Do you have to build quickly, or can you take the time for the planning accordingly? I speak from experience: we actually wanted to start building very quickly and also had a quite good design. Due to some trouble with the building authority and previous architects, everything was delayed a lot, and I am now VERY glad about this delay. We have been working on the project for almost a year now, and that really benefits the design. You collect much more input when you take your time for it, and many inconsistencies only become apparent over time. Therefore: if you have time, take it!
Be open to new suggestions, even things you shake your head at at first. Don't cling to ideas you have now in your head, become free!
I believe that then you will find a better, more individually tailored solution for your situation in the long term. This is still rather "mainstream" with a few modifications. You can do more!

Climbee wow, would you really build all that for your child? I can only effectively talk from my own experiences. Bathroom: we have a bathroom of just under 8 sqm. With a teenager, a toddler, and the two of us adults, we manage perfectly fine. The older one anyway goes to the bathroom once we've been awake for 2 hours. I experienced the same with myself and my brother when we still lived at home. I regularly rejoice about the guest toilet. By the way, my ex also had his own bathroom... but you had to be afraid that something would happen to you there. In other words, he only used the parents' bathroom as well. Children's room size: 15 sqm is more than enough for any age (depending on the layout, 20 sqm could also be nice if it’s quite quirky). As ypg already said, as a teenager you're happy about every meter less you have to drag around, and as a small child 15 sqm seems huge. Our youngest (2 years old) moved from 8 sqm (with nasty slants) to the big room with 24 sqm. He effectively uses 5 sqm for playing but prefers to be downstairs with us. We have a play corner for him in the living room, and that will be set up in the house too. That way I can keep an eye on him and we enjoy the company. Later, when friends come, he can always play in his room. I spent my childhood in rooms under 11 sqm, with bulky furniture. That was completely enough for me; I never missed anything. Children in the living room: we play in the living room. When the little one gets bigger and brings friends, 12 sqm will have to be enough for him. Thanks to great combination furniture, that is wonderfully doable. In other words, I give up on tidiness ( ) and promote sociability. I love watching my child play. I could laugh myself silly doing that.