Technical room / Router / Access Points / Switches

2022-02-23 10:27:24

Yes, but here you get the set of short colored cables for < 15 EUR and everything is reasonable and clear. I doubt that the cables end up in the electrical cabinet, but are routed out next to it, right? So here on a patch panel. If the installation is done by the electrician anyway, it's best to get him a suitable cabinet (around 100 EUR) and a corresponding patch panel for it, so he can lay the cables directly on it. Add a switch (+ Speedport Smart 4 plus according to my recommendation) and everything works well in combination with the mentioned APs.

That’s the issue... I have no idea where all the LAN cables end up? I thought the patch panel ultimately is always in the electrical cabinet. He doesn’t have any other option, since there is no other "enclosure"? He can’t just place the patch panel next to it, can he? What I could do: I could buy a network cabinet, assemble it first, and then tell him to put his patch panel in here. That should be definitely doable, right? From what I can see, no patch panels are included with the network cabinets? So I could have the electrician do everything on his ordered patch panel, which he then “places” in the network cabinet and I install afterwards? Like I said... I just don’t know how universal this all is? Thanks also for your input!

2022-02-23 10:30:43

The electrician must leave the cables long enough so that they can be routed into the network cabinet. Extending them would be bad. Patch panels are available in 10” and 19” widths. Even 10” can be installed in a 19” cabinet with an adapter. The switch you mentioned as a 24-port and the access point already fit. Or the access point I suggested. Network cabinets are available from x to y. Standing, hanging, various depths, etc. A 9U cabinet from, for example, Digitus is enough for you. You only need to put in a power strip, Fritzbox, patch panel, and switch. I am a fan of centrally managed systems like Unify. But with Magenta and if you are not deeper into the subject, it is better to take the proposed solution. The patch panel must first be installed in the cabinet. Then the cables are introduced and terminated. Installing an already populated patch panel in the cabinet usually only works with partial disassembly of the cabinet.

2022-02-23 10:42:19

The electrician must leave the cables long enough so that they can be routed to the network cabinet. Extending them would be bad.
Patch panels are available in 10“ and 19“ widths. You can also install a 10“ panel in a 19“ cabinet using an adapter.
The switch you mentioned as a 24-port and the access point fit fine. Or the access point I suggested.
Network cabinets come from x to y. Standing, hanging, different depths, etc.
A 9U cabinet from, for example, Digitus is enough for you. You only need to put the power strip, Fritzbox, patch panel, and switch in there.

I am a fan of centrally managed systems like, for example, Unify. But with Magenta and not deeper into the subject, better take the proposed solution.

The patch panel must first be installed in the cabinet. Then the cables are introduced and terminated.
Installing a patch panel that is already occupied in the cabinet usually only works with partial disassembly of the cabinet.

That means to me: It would make sense if I give the electrician a network cabinet that I have already assembled, but not yet mounted on the wall, in which he can feed everything in and which I can then mount on the wall afterwards, right?

In other words: It is even better for the electrician if nothing is yet fixed to the wall because otherwise, he can’t get to all places properly?

DIGITUS Network Cabinet 19 inch 9U - unassembled - wall mounting - 400 mm depth - load capacity 60 kg - glass door - gray

should fit accordingly, or I can make it available to the electrician for installation, you think? Of course, I will talk to him about it again in advance!

I can simply order a suitable power strip myself.

Thanks a lot!!!

I still have a picture from a few weeks ago – that’s how it looked 2-3 weeks ago. Would it also make sense to build the unit underneath, or must it necessarily be next to it? We still have to have the photovoltaic system installed to the left of it... I’m afraid otherwise it will all be too tight?

2022-02-23 10:49:57

Below that works well. Cable into the duct and then into the network cabinet. Then he can feed power and LAN cables simultaneously and screw in the patch panel. Use a protected power strip. The electrician must install an outlet in the network cabinet. First the cabinet on the wall and then installation.

2022-02-23 10:54:22

It fits well underneath. Cable into the duct and then into the network cabinet. Then he can feed power and LAN cables at the same time and screw in the patch panel. Use a protected power strip. The electrician just has to install a socket in the network cabinet. First mount the cabinet on the wall, then do the installation.

Alright, so it’s best if I mount the cabinet directly on the wall so he can install everything afterwards.

Brennenstuhl Hugo Power Strip 4-way with Surge Protection

should be enough, right? I only need 2 sockets for router and switch at first anyway. That way I still have buffer for 2 more devices. An 8-way strip wouldn’t even fit space-wise.

2022-02-23 10:55:05

If his offer includes a prepared "Patchpanel," he would probably just nail it to the wall.... If you provide him with the cabinet and the corresponding Patchpanel for it, he will probably have no problem routing the cables directly and placing them on it...

I would install the cabinet under your fuse box, since the cables are already hanging there. Then they will be routed and neatly installed in the upper part of the cabinet. From my point of view, a 10" cabinet should be enough, for example a Digitus DN-10-09U. The advantage of this is that it is only 30 cm deep, similar to the fuse box, and therefore does not protrude as much. At least in my case, that was important since it is right behind the door...

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