Single-family house 160m2 with basement, 500m2 plot

I thought we were talking about five-figure amounts for planning. Maybe I also misunderstand the fee rates for architects. Is there a portal to find architects?

Good planning costs money, although less than it is worth. Yes, chambers of architects have had websites forever.

My planner insists firmly that the straight staircase at that position produces the best floor plan on the upper floor.

Firmly nonsense. The key to the upper floor plan lies in the position of the exit; the course of the stairs is not decisive.

The rooms on the upper floor were our specification and that is also the only thing that was important to us at first: 3 children's rooms,

The number of conditions limits the number of solutions. We don't even know if the children are triplets or spaced ten years apart. You simply cannot plan otherwise than garage to the left and a complicated floor plan.

We don’t even know from the children whether they are triplets or spread out over ten years

But that wasn’t a question in your "10 commandments" of the questionnaire. The children are 0, 4, and 6 years old.

Absolutely nonsense. The grading key for the upper floor layout lies in the position of the exit; the stair layout is not decisive

Since the upper floor is supposed to build over the garage (otherwise the garage will be too small for us), a staircase with a landing naturally works worse, since it takes up its cross-section from the upper floor. I’m trying it out myself right now and notice, it really isn’t optimal.

Good planning costs money, even if less than it’s worth. Yes, architect chambers have had websites forever.

So far I thought that a construction supervisor offering architect houses would be an alternative. As I understand it, I would use phases 1 and 2 of a freelance architect. Those are 10% of the fee, about 2.5k-3.5k €. Then I will make some appointments.

I was under the impression that a BU offering architect-designed houses represents an alternative.

What is probably meant is a custom design, just as a difference to a catalog house merely mirrored or with shifted interior walls. Pure catalog houses don't work if the market only offers non-catalog plots. However, that does not automatically make a custom design better.

Then I will make some appointments.

You have already been encouraged several times to just make the planner sweat more and try the method of achieving better results with fewer specifications. I think you rather need a hearing aid.

It probably means an individual plan, just to differentiate it from the catalog house, only mirrored or with a shifted interior wall. Pure catalog houses don’t work if the market only offers non-catalog plots. But that doesn’t automatically make an individual plan better.

You have already been encouraged several times to just make the planner sweat more and try the method of achieving a better result with fewer specifications. I think you might need a hearing aid

I have already understood you.... She is simply not willing to sweat... her boss is on vacation. If not with him in 3 weeks, I’ll tell her she has to go to a freelance architect, then she will sweat, but I don’t want to waste the full 3 weeks here.

What we have here did not come from my sketch! As I said, we only named the upstairs rooms, the number of bathrooms and offices in the basement. Oh yes, and the interior width of the garage should be at least 3.20, preferably 3.80. That was all.

Now I see the plan and am dissatisfied. I can’t tell her to just suddenly apply amnesia and redraw the plan with the same specifications, can I? Maybe I should say exactly that...

I honestly hoped that one of the planning geniuses here would make a "dirty" counter-sketch with which I could then "help" you.

But you say you are missing information, yet I still don't quite understand exactly what information it is... Isn't the site picture with the building envelope above enough? Should I add more dimensions there?

Now I see the plan and I am dissatisfied. I can't just tell her to spontaneously apply amnesia and come up with a new plan with the same specifications, can I? Maybe I should say exactly that...

It would certainly stand a much better chance than trying to bend a crooked seam at several points.

To be honest, I had hoped that one of the planning geniuses here would make a "dirty" counter-sketch with which I could then "help" her.

No chance. Kerstin is probably just lacking boredom right now and Katja was driven away by the highest authority. I can draw even "more beautifully" than I can sing *LOL*