Idea collection floor plan single-family house, open construction method

So I would therefore develop the upper floor first, then the ground floor.

I generally give this advice because the upper floor – whether attic or regular floor – is typically more complicated to divide. At least if you are not eager to have beams or the like due to non-aligned load-bearing walls, starting from the upper floor is simpler (not only for laypeople). And in this respect, there is significantly more "music" than in an additional eight omitted square meters.

@ haydee, @ montesalet:
What you write about the upper floor sounds terrible

I wouldn’t write love poems about it either.

I have also marked windows, but deliberately not dimensioned them; firstly, I want to stick to available/common sizes, which I do not know

That is a commendable attitude. But if you state your desired sizes as a negotiating basis, you can be given advice on nearby practical or common sizes.

I don’t see all that many niches and corners,

I can almost see from the moon that the actually rectangular floor plan makes a bend (which also costs significantly more than eight square meters of additional area).

A very open floor plan. Think again about whether you really want to make the guest toilet openly accessible and, above all, visible from the living area. We recently had the problem that it is uncomfortable if you can't literally slip around the corner to a quiet spot.
You might prefer to place it behind the stairs or something similar.

The pantry doesn't work like this, the toilet is too small, the entrance is comparatively quite generous.

The upper floor is unacceptable - but that should be doable.

Basically, you can take this to the architect. He sees what you want. You can point out the weak spots. He will surely sort it out for you. You can then come back here with the result.

@ haydee:
- Furnishing for the entrance is not yet decided. Jackets and shoes are to be stored. I was thinking of cupboards on the top and bottom walls of the plan.

On both sides, it will be a narrow corridor

- Pantry: The niche accessible from the kitchen is intended for a SBS fridge. The inner corner is not yet decided, it arose from the external requirement. Possibly the pantry can also be adjusted by moving the walls. However, the size would already be sufficient.

You can't really put anything properly in the inner corner

- WC is just a WC, measurements are known (from other WCs), but good point, we'll see if we can widen it a bit. My measurements should also be final dimensions

I just don't like these tight toilets

- Living: TV on the bottom wall (south wall)

You planned a lift-and-slide door there

@ haydee, @ montesalet:
Sounds awful what you write about the upper floor
About the bedroom: There is 1m space all around the bed, which I think is plenty. (Bed is drawn to scale (2.3x2.2m)

It looked like less

What you don’t like about the hallway, please explain more precisely.

The layout. In the children's bathroom this useless small corner, the open space in front of your bathroom

The children’s rooms both had an almost identical floor area, hence the kink. One should consider that the room is still 3m wide here and thus as large as "standard" children's rooms, which are often about 3x4m. It is just elongated. Personally, I find that better than square, because you can easily define different areas later.

Size isn’t everything.
The children’s room with the kink is and remains awful and also not good to furnish later.

@ kaho674:

Thank you for the explanations! We currently live in a condominium with a similarly open floor plan (just about half the size), and the mentioned houses of friends are also similarly open, so we made this decision very consciously. I actually like the idea of the WC behind the stairs, but (unfortunately) I can't fit a window there anymore (because of the adjacent garage), which is why it is so "crammed" in the corner. Maybe another idea? I know a functioning pantry that is even a bit narrower. Why shouldn’t that work? The same applies to a WC. What would you change on the upper floor, how, and why?

P.S. You posted a house you liked in another thread: Casa Vita from Sonnleitner. At least on the ground floor, I see many parallels.

I have already been to an architect for an introductory meeting, and actually, we are both firmly convinced not to consult another one. I do not want to elaborate on the reasons here. Rather, I want to achieve the goal (possibly together with you), with friends and housebuilding companies. Unfortunately, that is not up for discussion.

: The "load-bearing" walls/posts are aligned vertically, so it also works the other way around in this case.

Sorry, I prefer to have the standard window sizes provided by the company I will build with; I find that more effective.

To clarify: I do not see too many niches and corners whose purpose is unclear.

Unfortunately, I know that the jogged shape is not cheaper than more right-angled space. We saw it as necessary to have, on the one hand, enough space for the kitchen with a large cooking island, and on the other hand, enough terrace space in the south. The projection behind the garage would actually not be necessary. I have already put that on the list as a possible cut candidate for savings.

Sorry if I now seem a bit resistant to advice; I gladly accept your criticism as long as I find it well justified for me. Unfortunately, that is often not the case.

The inner corner has not yet been decided, it arose from the external requirement. It might be possible to adjust the pantry by moving the walls.

In principle, one can say about the design that shifting rooms like in Tetris was not successful, and therefore many open corners remain without purpose. On the upper floor, the hallway; on the ground floor, the pantry; the "second hallway" that has developed between the chimney and the stairs. And with this generosity, two major drawbacks were created: the generous view into the toilet and the bottleneck to the stairs caused by the chimney.

I don't like the entrance area at all: it is simply difficult to furnish. By the way, among architects there is a rule that if you don't quite know where to go in the entrance hallway, it is a bad design.
And somehow there is some truth to that. If you furnish the entrance area with cabinets, the door is no longer noticeable. That does not exactly give you the feeling of coming home or feeling comfortable.

My dimensions should also be final dimensions.

They are not.

P.s. I haven’t read all the pages anymore, ...

On both sides it will be a narrow corridor.

approx. 1.6m wide, our current hallway is similarly long and 1.2m wide (without furniture)

You have planned a lift-and-slide door there.

The wall is approx. 8m, so there is enough space. (approx. 3-4m are needed)

The layout. In the children's bathroom this useless small corner, the open space in front of your bathroom.

Here, for example, beautiful large indoor plants can be placed. Exactly these little things make “generosity” in our eyes.

Size isn’t everything. The children's room with the bend is and remains terrible and also later not easy to furnish.

In my opinion, I can (for example) furnish the rear part just like a children’s room that is 3x4m in size. I have the front area in addition.
For the sake of imagination:
A room divider, sleeping in the rear area, living in the front, and I already have a “small” two-room apartment!

All that to perhaps understand our reasons for some things.