Monthly living expenses with a child

It’s really something extreme what you read here? 8300 for the initial equipment wow. 350 euros a month for food, and you get full and it’s varied? Wow. And someone sends their children to work just because they themselves had to work, why did you have children in the first place? None of this is normal.

Don’t twist the truth! Of course I will financially support my children, but I want them to work for a certain luxury themselves. That’s how you teach independence & handling money – there are other ways, sure, but are you really going to tell me now that this is wrong? Funny guy...

And no, we neither get full nor is it varied... oh, and by the way, it’s household money. Cleaning stuff etc. is also bought from it.

And there are 50 euros included for the day-care mother, who charges for breakfast/lunch – by the way, no lavish meal is needed in the evening anymore. But you surely lack this imagination.

I definitely don’t need to be asked by a guy like you why I have children. You’re probably one of those helicopter types...

Fortunately, I am not one of those helicopter parents, my son is 16, absolutely independent and knows how to handle money well, top grades at school and still voluntarily does high-performance sports 6 times a week. My, our upbringing has always been to treat him simply as an equal member of the family. That also means that if I buy something expensive, he gets it too if he wants and doesn’t have to pay anything, why would he, he doesn’t even have time to earn money. I can’t imagine that you have good quality food? My wife alone spends 200 euros a month at the butcher. I don’t even want to start talking about cleaning and hygiene products. Regards

One can enjoy arguing about education, but forget immediately seeing your education as state of the art...

And as I said, just because you can't imagine something, doesn't mean it can't be done.

I say that with 350 it is not possible in Germany to live healthily and with quality. I know that many people no longer have resources available and that the system is very wrong. But if you have more available, you should also use it out of your responsibility. For you, I don't care, but not for your children!

And I say, you’re talking nonsense and only see your own perspective - when our child is 16 (and hopefully not an only child anymore then...), we will certainly be more so as well.

Don’t argue. The topic of "spoiling or not spoiling the child" is a difficult one. I myself am torn on this. On the one hand, I am in favor of children growing up modestly and definitely learning to put in effort for nice things. I myself grew up that way and always had to work for everything. So from the age of 13, I delivered newspapers every Saturday and at 15 I improved my allowance by creating websites alongside school. Back then, you only needed Frontpage for that. I neither came from a wealthy family nor was there "money" anywhere in the extended family. No rich grandma, no rich uncle. No inheritances... A typical "Ossi" family, really. Now here comes my BUT: Why should my child grow up in such modest circumstances when we live totally differently? Wearing brand clothes myself and shopping for the child at KiK? Using a modern phone myself and the child (at the corresponding age) using the model from four years ago? No no... that won’t do either. The topic of a car at 18... Mom and Dad have three expensive cars in front of the house (I’m exaggerating deliberately) and the child rides a bike? Working alongside university to pay for the shared apartment room? Etc...