Is building in Bavaria still possible for 500k?

  • Erstellt am 2022-03-11 10:43:24

Tassimat

2022-05-25 22:44:50
  • #1
I already understand that it can be done differently.

Did you recess a mirrored cabinet into the 17.5 cm wall? I addressed this case. How is your WC executed?
Poroton != wall + insulation. I addressed the second case.
 

Pinkiponk

2022-05-26 07:23:18
  • #2
Unfortunately, I did not understand this remark, nor the context. What is a "finish package" and a "bible-thick interface documentation" and what is the latter needed for? Thank you ... ... thank you for your correction. I have obviously been stuck with very old prejudices.
 

mayglow

2022-05-26 12:33:30
  • #3

By "finish package" they probably mean the later trades, which are often subcontracted (sometimes because they are not included from the start or sometimes because they are cut out to save costs). So probably plumbing, possibly electrical, tiling, painting, some also offer built-in cabinets, and here also exterior roofing and so on were mentioned. I think the general contractors still like to earn quite well in this area and there is still plenty of potential for upselling.
And by "bible-thick interface documentation" they probably mean the extra effort and documentation that has to be done so that everything still works. Where the connections are, etc. With floors, you sometimes adjust the build-up height beforehand to get different coverings flush. I'm not a construction expert, but I suspect things can often go wrong there. Especially when change requests come in quite late and then something has to be changed both with the self-hired trade as well as possibly with preparatory work from the general contractor. (Although I can also imagine that this can sometimes be difficult internally for the general contractor, but when the "interface" between GC/external service provider is affected, it is simply one more point where things can quickly go wrong)
 

11ant

2022-05-26 14:10:28
  • #4
By "finish package" I mean the installation work subcontracted to the local lamp store, metalworker, etcetera, for canopies, awnings, pergolas, and Griswold-style facade lighting, which the oh-so-individual home needs as essentially as a Manta needs the fox tail on its antenna. And the interface documentation is the datasheets you expect for upper cabinet hang loads and the like, about which the general contractor is kindly supposed to provide the trade-removing client with comprehensive accountability.
 

Pinkiponk

2022-05-26 17:07:50
  • #5

Plumbing, electrical work, tiling, and painting are all included with us; our house seller did not offer exterior canopies, outdoor lamps, or built-in wardrobes.


Even though all trades are included with our house seller, I still hope for detailed documentation so that we know what was executed where and how, in case something has to be changed, repaired, or replaced later.

Thank you for your explanations, now I understand. :)


I did not know that our house seller offered all that as well. We talked once about awnings, but he would only have offered the reinforcement at the respective spot, and we would have to decide immediately where exactly we wanted the awnings. He would not have sold or installed the awning itself. He also did not offer us outdoor lamps. It would have been fine with us if he had taken care of everything. So apparently there was a communication problem there as well. ;-)
 

11ant

2022-05-26 17:27:20
  • #6
Don’t hope, but expect: execution plans should be included, because your future problem is otherwise common to all “prefabricated” house buyers here, see among others – but all the data sheets/material certificates are usually not needed here (except for manufacturers with pedigree, which is customary in this price range).
 

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