House construction costs, how were they for you?

I can't really comment on the prices because we built before 2020.

But a lot is missing there? Don’t you have gutters or anything? Where does your rainwater go? The fuse box already costs 2000€?
The chimney was already three times that in 2013 for us, ok also twice as high/long ;) ...
And instead of flooring, you went for the fancy fingerprint system and wood stove?

(of course every build is subjective)

That's right.
I think it’s good when earners of lower salaries can afford their own home if they want to, but even here there are some bitter pills for you to swallow, at least the mentioned location (AdW). If you or you can’t exactly do a home office, some of the savings from building the house will be eaten up again by commuting costs in the future. That can become difficult at this salary level at some point. Such calculations are no longer discussed then.

You would also have to add your hours of EL to the listing...

I also think that these numbers are realistic for very few people. Even with a lot of personal effort, these figures should no longer be achievable, simply because materials have become more expensive. And very few people have such extensive time and professional skills to do so much themselves. The numbers are so far from reality that I almost want to guess trolling.

The numbers are "unrealistic" for you because we did a lot ourselves and therefore did not need the expensive craftsmen. Except for plumbing/heating from a professional for 80€/h and staircase builders, plasterers,... Therefore, they are not as high as those of other builders who only have things DONE!! Having no two left hands is of course a prerequisite. But you also learn a lot of new "skills". You basically grow with the tasks. I would have never trusted myself with such a huge and responsible project before. But if you pitch in yourself, your house will later tell you a story at every corner (how it came to be). If it is possible to scale back at work, for example, that would be very helpful for the EL (personal effort). And that way you can work more on the house and thus keep the costs lower.

Electronics/doors for 2,100 EUR? I am currently looking for a soundproof door for my study, that alone will cost 500 EUR, I will install it myself. Did you make the doors out of papier-mâché?

I think it's good that an object with a lot of personal effort is shown. Of course, not everyone can do that. But you can see that it is also possible for an average earner to build a house if you build small, don’t want every little gadget, and can/want to do a lot yourself.

I find it unnecessary to immediately accuse that of trolling.

Yes, that was exactly my intention! To show that even a low earner can build a nice "small" house. Thank you very much, Silke!! But I must admit that we did include a bit of "gadgetry." For example, the expensive solid aluminum door with fingerprint / code lock. But it’s also a great thing!

If he only has to connect it, I can imagine that. Chiseling slots and laying cables can be done alone.

Right. That's exactly how it was! Regarding electricity: a lot of preparatory work was done again, so that the electrician only had to come 1-2 times for wiring, hence the low amount.

I think it's good that an object with a lot of personal effort is shown. Of course, not everyone can do that. But you can see that it is also possible for the average earner to build a house if you build small, don't want every little gimmick, and can/want to do a lot yourself. I find it unnecessary to immediately accuse that of trolling.

But here it is somehow presented as if every office worker can manage that if they just reduce their hours and do everything themselves. It is completely ignored that many tasks on the construction site require immense expertise. To suggest to young, perhaps low-earning building families that "you can do all that yourselves" is, in my opinion, almost negligent. They then go into debt for the amounts for their entire lives, potentially overestimate their abilities, and end up financially facing a botched mess.