Floor plan, not a specific single-family house, approximately 200m² with 2 apartments

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-23 23:30:39

Costruttrice

2023-02-24 12:04:25
  • #1


o_O That’s absurd!
Get yourself a second duvet along with a pillow and store it on the guest fold-out couch. In case of emergency, you switch rooms and have everything ready. It’s not much more effort, but you get a proper spatial and acoustic separation instead of nonsense like a sliding door over the mattress!
 

ThomasMagmar

2023-02-24 12:09:31
  • #2


How far away the neighboring property ultimately is, I cannot say, but maintaining the 3m distance could be feasible with an appropriately sized plot. Or, if lucky, it might be the last house/property on the street.



I already looked at that before and my stairs roughly correspond to the stairs at the top right. They are a bit shorter but wider. As I said, I found the stair dimensions like this from a provider. If the stairs then need to be somewhat longer or wider, I could still adjust that. We’re probably only talking about a few centimeters here.



I am aware of that point and mentioned it in my original text. I had considered swapping the utility room and ground floor bathroom, but I wasn’t really happy with either version. I would be willing to bear the additional costs (if allowed), even if the line routing would have to go, for example, around the garage.



What would you specifically think of as impossible? On the ground floor you can get through the front door, utility room door, and garden terrace. Upstairs there is a separate front door. The most problematic thing for me would actually be swapping the bed in the bedroom, if the wardrobes are already standing.



It would be intended purely for quick toilet visits, whether at night directly before or after sleeping. Otherwise, at most, teeth brushing or just washing hands is planned. The children can of course still use the main bathroom for showering etc. Regarding the pipes, I had thought/assumed that they could also run in the exterior walls, but I would need to inform myself more precisely here. Possibly I would then have to increase the width to about 1.2-1.3m due to the partition wall.



There is a large opening of 1.8x2m from the kitchen to the dining room, from where you can quickly reach the terrace. Therefore, I do not really see the need for an additional direct access from the kitchen.



For some things, I could have taken the trouble to write the height as well. At the place you mentioned, no cabinet is planned, but a smaller chest of drawers. On it, things like car keys can be placed. Possibly above it the control if it were to be a smart home (another tablet in the living room). The cloakroom would be directly to the right of the entrance area.



Thanks for the criticism, I take the points to heart. For some things, in my opinion, there is no right or wrong, only preferences.
 

ThomasMagmar

2023-02-24 12:11:45
  • #3


Oh, yes, you’re right, I could/should still change that. I tried so many different options, moved, rotated, etc., that in the end it looked like it was with the cardinal directions. At the beginning, north was also at the top ^^
 

ThomasMagmar

2023-02-24 12:28:02
  • #4


Regarding the sound insulation of the sliding door, I also have my doubts and therefore marked it as a gimmick. Of course, I would have to test beforehand with a decibel meter how much noise can be suppressed by a sliding door. I doubt that the sliding door eliminates any sound at all; rather, the question would be whether it reduces enough to provide added value.

How often do you go to the toilet and how often do you have to shower? The children would have a somewhat closer, easier way, and the toilet in the main bathroom thus would be free more often. When you are sitting on the toilet, you also want to be alone. Also, the "children's bathroom" wouldn't necessarily have to be fully tiled, making a later remodeling easier when the children move out.

As stated before, the dressing room partly serves as storage space since there is no basement, and its size is largely due to the planning (of the kitchen) from the ground floor. Most plans I have seen have a children's room of 15–20 sqm, but these then only have one or even no office. If the "children's bathroom" were to be omitted, it would also be about 1 sqm larger each.

We have to wait and see how prices develop in the near future. If possible, I would of course try to reduce costs with some self-performance here or there. Your estimate could definitely be accurate if it were completely turnkey.
 

kbt09

2023-02-24 12:30:47
  • #5
You have preconceived opinions and you don't really want to play with floor plans, but have already fallen in love with your layout. You can tell from statements like

And, what is the point of a children's toilet that would also require 2 unmarked entrances, if then the rest goes to the parents' bathroom. It is better to have a central, easily accessible bathroom for all residents of the upper floor. Especially since the toilet drain would end up in the living room ;)

If there is, for example, only a dresser in the entrance, then where do jackets etc. go, especially in a 4-person household with children.

For drawing.. there are standardized drawing variants:
- Tall cabinets drawn as a box with a cross
- Wall cabinets drawn as a box with a diagonal line
- Dressers etc. just drawn as a box

Stairs... here a few cm and there a few cm.. with your two-apartment planning, you also have to remember that beds, sofas, etc. will have to be transported up the stairs. When planning in a sketch, it is better to be a bit generous than too tight.
 

ThomasMagmar

2023-02-24 12:47:55
  • #6


Maybe you are right about that, but whether it is really absurd, I don’t necessarily see that way (yet). I would have to somehow test how much noise could actually be generated by it in the end. But it is definitely "abnormal" or not "usual." However, just because something is not usual doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.



You are absolutely right with the assessment that the "children’s bathroom" wasn’t originally there and I’m considering whether it would make sense or not.
The consideration regarding the drainpipes through the living room is definitely something to think about, but I am not sure how disruptive that really is. After all, the toilet won’t be used that often, especially during the times when the living room is used the most. I would have to talk to someone for whom this case applies.

I have already looked at more than enough plans and 90% of the plans do not appeal to me at all. Everyone has their own ideas/wishes and different conditions have to be met. My wish is simply to create a suitable house that each has 2 children + offices, and that each floor can be considered a separate apartment. Normally you don’t find something like that.
 

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