You will certainly install a nice kitchen, and therefore I would find it a shame if it gets blocked.
We pondered again last night and I’m trying to draw something open with my boxes.
I can well understand SbS, but in my opinion it should be 2x60cm wide or you should look at the usually measly narrow freezer compartment of the 90cm models;
2 x 60 is already quite huge. I would take an SBS with French Door – cooling on top, freezer below.
The upper floor somehow looks lazily drawn or just slapped in.
In terms of room sizes, it exactly meets our requirements. I still want to try to move the bathroom door toward the bedroom, since the floor-to-ceiling window of the gallery faces the street, and possibly rethink the sanitary fixtures.
Why do you think the kitchen in the left part of the house would have to be designed differently? As far as I can tell, the rooms on the left and right of the hallway are exactly the same size (except for the little corner with the sofa)? Only the table would have to move slightly toward the hallway entrance.
What are the orientations and where is the terrace planned?
If I take your suggestion with the pantry into account, it would indeed be almost the same. But the pantry is not that important to us. If I just swapped the sides – with the hated door – then the kitchen would be huge. But I will try again with a (semi-)open idea.
The terrace is planned to the south, so at the bottom.
Also check out the parallel thread, it turned out better there.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/neubau-efh-ca-180-m-4-personen-ohne-keller-rlp-kfw-55.35970/#post-422803
I had already looked at that thread, but with 180sqm I also have quite different possibilities. That’s 20% more space.
I’m still trying to fill in the points from the pinned thread. The hope was that it would be done by shifting two walls on the ground floor.
He has the worst parking spot: do you take out everything that you get out (e.g., for dinner) individually, put it down three meters away, and then do that 10 times?
Thanks, I hadn’t thought of it that narrowly so far, but I will discuss it with my wife.
TV stand: in front of a terrace door? It’s obvious that this is not sensible at all.
The windows still have to be moved. We had the furniture arranged differently then. Just like the window at the SBS in the kitchen (which was originally wider).
In the bathroom, I would swap the tub and the sinks.
So that you don’t bathe right in front of the door, I assume? Makes sense. Or does the suggestion have other reasons?
And how many guests per year are we talking about here anyway, that the whole planning gets turned upside down?
You too "I have 25,000 euros for the guest room."
Ypg’s question is quite right: How often do guests come and for how many nights?
We live 150 km away from family. That’s too far to just meet in the afternoon, but close enough to visit regularly over the weekend. The child is currently under 1 year old, and we have missed a corresponding guest room since then in our current apartment.
Also, we will no longer live directly in the city and friends might also stay overnight more often. Conclusion: We would rather not do without it.
An SBS needs more space, and it would open the wrong way in that spot.
Why the wrong way?
No island fits in the kitchen, first the room is not wide enough, and the sliding door is in the wrong place. Center is always bad for that. But I just see the room is only 275cm wide, so no island desired.
Exactly, we don’t necessarily need an island or want a fully open kitchen. The sliding door was centered to make the opening over 2 wings as large as possible.
We actually found our idea with the wide door pretty good, but I realize it is rather less well received. We will try again this evening to shift things a bit.
If necessary, steal one square meter more from the child’s room and make the office a bit bigger. Or store a mattress / inflatable guest bed in the storage room and bring it to the office when visitors come.
That was a consideration we also had. But if there is a second child, we will lack a room.
Also possible: you make your storage room from the guest room downstairs – then you can shift the living room wall by 2m and have no direct view of the kitchen.
Upstairs you will have to shift a bit. From your guest room you make from 5.25sqm a 2x3m room (sizes AFTER plastering). A bed with 180cm mattress width fits in, and next to the door a small shelf for the suitcase and towel. Or recalculate upstairs again.
Here too, it was considered regarding the second child. I would move into the guest room with the office, but 6sqm is really small then. We will think about both options again when we put our heads together this evening.
I know it like this: when visitors come, for example both kids sleep in one room and the visitors in the other. Or the visitors sleep with the kids. Or in the living room on the sofa. It depends a bit on how “official” the visit is. But at home you actually only accommodate family, right?
Although it is not yet clear if another children’s room is needed. Then the room on the ground floor already has a double function.
With friends we were usually put on the living room sofa – but at that time we didn’t have our own child yet.