mayglow
2023-02-24 20:41:13
- #1
When it comes to planning separability in a forward-thinking way, keeping a dead-end staircase never even crossed my mind, so I didn’t understand that at all. For me, that would rather be in the realm of a last resort because the separabilities were specifically NOT planned for… If I plan it in a forward-looking way, I would simply plan the staircase in its own room or at least plan it so that it can be easily separated into its own room. Obviously, that doesn’t fit in the current plan at all, so you’d be back to square one (which might not be a bad thing…). In the Flair it could be done either by relocating the kitchen door or just leaving it there for now and then closing it when you want to separate. There’s still access to the kitchen through the living room.
Well, for example, the door from the hallway to the large room could be moved slightly upward. That would allow you to put an office down at the bottom left and either you might even have the option to add a second door from the hallway or you could make the office door accessible from the living room, but completely without the stub. Otherwise, I still don’t like the kitchen layout one bit as it is. That means, at that spot I don’t like the hallway or the kitchen. I would probably even like the kitchen better if it just continued straight and didn’t go around the utility room (so simply a rectangle. Possibly also extending over the utility room but not as far as currently) and then put a door on the short side. Then you can fill the right wall entirely with cabinets. Or you leave the wraparound around the utility room but then I would still move the door and place a cabinet where it currently is or something like that. Either way, the variant with the combination of “hallway too narrow,” “kitchen with odd shape AND passage completely parallel to the hallway right next to it” simply seems wrong to me. It has to be better ;) Otherwise, you currently even have a cabinet drawn in the 120 cm (structural dimension) section once. That then probably doesn’t just look narrow but really also is narrow in practical terms.
In my opinion, the area at the top would also benefit from a larger hallway. Much smaller dressing room, but remove two of the four doors. A slightly longer bathroom and directly accessible from the hallway. Other doors, if possible, out of the corners. Or something like that. You don’t really need an office, you could use the space for a second small bathroom, for example (either with access from the dressing room as a master bath or from the hallway as a second bathroom for whoever). That would be adjacent to the other bathroom and both are roughly above the utility room, so for plumbing and stuff. Or you shuffle the rooms completely anew, who knows :) But as I said, I’m not a floor plan person, I only move walls around based on your basis, with all the limitations that come with it. Someone who can do that would take your room program and maybe come up with a completely different arrangement.
That simply came across differently on the other side than “no, this is all totally great, I have thought this through completely.” And then there were partly overly detailed explanations as to why things are the way they are, which sometimes seemed a bit absurd. (The bedroom story for example… without meaning to offend you, but a sliding door that you pull over the bed at mattress height to split it into two parts really seems a bit unrealistic…). The forum is somewhat rough, but ultimately most people cared that the plan is not a good basis. Then, as I said, the impression came across that you found it totally great and wouldn’t want a new plan from scratch at all.
What advantage other than the appearance (less cramped) would there be if the hallway became larger there and the kitchen smaller instead?
Well, for example, the door from the hallway to the large room could be moved slightly upward. That would allow you to put an office down at the bottom left and either you might even have the option to add a second door from the hallway or you could make the office door accessible from the living room, but completely without the stub. Otherwise, I still don’t like the kitchen layout one bit as it is. That means, at that spot I don’t like the hallway or the kitchen. I would probably even like the kitchen better if it just continued straight and didn’t go around the utility room (so simply a rectangle. Possibly also extending over the utility room but not as far as currently) and then put a door on the short side. Then you can fill the right wall entirely with cabinets. Or you leave the wraparound around the utility room but then I would still move the door and place a cabinet where it currently is or something like that. Either way, the variant with the combination of “hallway too narrow,” “kitchen with odd shape AND passage completely parallel to the hallway right next to it” simply seems wrong to me. It has to be better ;) Otherwise, you currently even have a cabinet drawn in the 120 cm (structural dimension) section once. That then probably doesn’t just look narrow but really also is narrow in practical terms.
In my opinion, the area at the top would also benefit from a larger hallway. Much smaller dressing room, but remove two of the four doors. A slightly longer bathroom and directly accessible from the hallway. Other doors, if possible, out of the corners. Or something like that. You don’t really need an office, you could use the space for a second small bathroom, for example (either with access from the dressing room as a master bath or from the hallway as a second bathroom for whoever). That would be adjacent to the other bathroom and both are roughly above the utility room, so for plumbing and stuff. Or you shuffle the rooms completely anew, who knows :) But as I said, I’m not a floor plan person, I only move walls around based on your basis, with all the limitations that come with it. Someone who can do that would take your room program and maybe come up with a completely different arrangement.
I’m not fixated on my execution, I just want to explain my thought process for why I decided this way in advance.
That simply came across differently on the other side than “no, this is all totally great, I have thought this through completely.” And then there were partly overly detailed explanations as to why things are the way they are, which sometimes seemed a bit absurd. (The bedroom story for example… without meaning to offend you, but a sliding door that you pull over the bed at mattress height to split it into two parts really seems a bit unrealistic…). The forum is somewhat rough, but ultimately most people cared that the plan is not a good basis. Then, as I said, the impression came across that you found it totally great and wouldn’t want a new plan from scratch at all.