Final stage floor plan: Is there still potential here?

  • Erstellt am 2018-04-16 22:14:32

kaho674

2018-04-17 06:36:05
  • #1
Dressing room does not work. Staircase is still questionable - please provide floor height and dimensions of the staircase. Access to the living room on the ground floor only through the kitchen could be annoying in the long run and does not look very inviting. Who gets how much of the dormer here and why? Light well in the basement needs a warning sign due to the risk of falling in the garden. Windows in the living room are far too few. Children's rooms are very unevenly distributed. But otherwise...
 

kbt09

2018-04-17 07:12:11
  • #2
I agree with Kaho and add that although very nice wardrobe niches have been planned, they are probably all too tight. I measured them once and they are all barely 60 cm. However, if a door opens against this wardrobe niche, it would be better to plan 70 cm. Pax wardrobes are, for example, 66 cm deep with sliding doors.

I also have concerns about the stairs; you would need to see a cross-section for that.

Somehow, I still can’t tell on the floor plan where north is (it is extremely tedious to always have to read the text first and then try to assign it to the floor plan). I also don’t recognize the plot.

Kitchen planning .. You should consider that a cooktop in the corner blocks 3 base cabinets for whoever is standing there. I find the window shape in the kitchen unusual, on the one hand somewhat paneled, and then fixed parapet elements at the bottom. Stylistically, that doesn’t fit well together. I would reconsider a G-shaped kitchen and then plan the window precisely once a fitting kitchen layout has been found. G-shaped kitchens often have the disadvantage that you basically always work along the wall and then have a large open space in the middle.

Mini bathroom on the ground floor, I would check whether to make it narrower but extend it across the entire width there. That would also create better hallway closet space.

Otherwise, I can very well understand your must-haves.
 

modder

2018-04-17 08:04:14
  • #3
Brilliant, many thanks for the lively participation
The dressing room is indeed annoying, we would have to make the closet under the cabinets a bit shorter. The slightly curved part is a bench and next to it is a mirror on the wall. My girlfriend really wants to be able to sit down while getting dressed.
We have already heard elsewhere that access to the living room might be inconvenient. We could still make a door directly into the hallway, but I don’t know if it wouldn’t be a bit cozier this way, since you would never see the door from the hallway coming from the couch.
Unfortunately, we don’t know where to put additional windows in the living room. Does anyone have an idea?

Regarding the gable distribution as follows: We wanted to make it asymmetric at first, but the carpentry said that wouldn’t be so great. It is better to make the walls directly in the middle or place them completely in one room. Therefore, the left one is 50% over the dressing room and 50% over the children’s room, and the right one is fully over the children’s room. In terms of floor plan, the western children’s room has about 1m² less floor area. However, the right one is practically a full-fledged room because of the gable.
A fence will be placed on top of the light well so that no one can fall in.


At the closet niches, a double sliding door with a mirror front will be placed on each side at the front. Then shelving will be directly attached to the walls. This way, the two closets will practically become part of the house. But yes, definitely fixed doorstops must be mounted on the floor. I had this closet solution when I was in the USA and have been totally enthusiastic about it ever since. The closet depth can then be individually determined by the installation of the sliding door.

I planned the stairs in Sketchup; every step is at least 2.30m from the ceiling.
Shell construction height ground floor: 2.65m -> finished floor-to-ceiling height 2.5m
The ceiling will be a CLT composite ceiling with 14cm + 15cm floor structure.
That means the stairs must overcome 2.5 + 0.14 + 0.15m = ~2.80m. With 18.7cm steps that makes exactly 15 steps. Even only 14 steps down to the basement. In the floor plan image, the tread width is 26 x 100cm.

Our house is rotated about 30 degrees, so approximately the bottom right on the floor plan is south.
Unfortunately, I cannot draw accurate arrows, so I have rotated the floor plans.
We have also attached a kitchen plan, as we were curious ourselves whether it would work this way. The kitchen surface is supposed to go up to the windows and the windows will have a transom (fixed glazing) at the bottom so that the window can also be opened without having to clear all the small stuff from the countertop first.

We probably really need to rethink the mini bathroom, as the hallway is over 4m wide at the place of the wardrobe



 

kbt09

2018-04-17 08:17:43
  • #4
Exactly what I mean... pay attention to the walking paths... notice the space between the sink and the cooktop = main workspace and when cooking with two people, someone is already at the cooktop, so the main workspace is poorly usable. Oven directly next to the wall can lead to operational problems. In any case, the space for 2 tall cabinets next to the window should be about 130 to 135 cm wide. Then it doesn’t look cramped.

I understand why the fixed parapet element. But how high will the window be? And is it supposed to be divided into four parts like that? Then consider really making it four-parted, i.e. 4 sashes, so that for ventilation etc. you only open the upper sashes, but for cleaning the window you can also open the lower sashes.

More sensible than the sink directly in front of the window is workspace directly in front of the window and the sink only a quarter to half, so that e.g. the faucet doesn’t have to be in front of the window. Because you stand more at the workspace than at the sink, but need the sink for quick access to water. And you get more out of the workspace that goes into the window recess if there is no sink in front of it.

Seating at the peninsula with raised bar. I tend to favor an overhanging countertop, which then gives you, for example, a nice walk-around buffet serving area and fewer dirty spots like e.g. the supports of the raised bar countertop.
 

toxicmolotof

2018-04-17 08:23:08
  • #5
The sink above drawers does not work (except with dead panels).

In my opinion at least 1 tall cabinet too few (or pantry/storage nearby).

The explanation sometimes looks great, but in practice it usually isn’t.
 

Matthew03

2018-04-17 08:45:30
  • #6
I find the entrance area much too dark, especially alongside the rightly mentioned living room... ideally, in addition to an extra window, the suggestion for an additional access to the living room should be taken into account and worked with glass elements there.
 

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