Exterior wall for KFW 40 (+) with or without ETICS?

  • Erstellt am 2021-02-18 11:23:56

parcus

2021-02-18 13:47:27
  • #1
You cannot say that in such general terms because many parameters go into a KfW40+. I can only advise involving an energy consultant early. Wall constructions can be changed with just a few clicks.
 

nordanney

2021-02-18 14:07:34
  • #2
Neither. It's simply just a different wall structure.
 

Bookstar

2021-02-18 14:18:19
  • #3
Absolutely no hollow bricks! Even if I repeat myself..
 

pagoni2020

2021-02-18 14:49:16
  • #4
Since you want to build with KFW, you need an energy consultant anyway. Only he can tell you the exact requirements, everything else is mostly groping in the dark. I would probably also recommend the "better" brick, and what I have read so far as an extra charge sounds pretty good. Of course, the building envelope is an important point in this calculation, but just as much the issue of thermal bridges, windows, roof, etc. The best shell is useless if other components are mediocre, or from a certain thickness on, insulation, measured against the application, no longer has such a strong effect. If you "save" on the brick, then you just pay for it elsewhere to achieve the desired value. This "playing" with the values is done by the energy consultant once he has recorded your house. After that, you quickly have your result or see the possible/sensible ways. One should also be aware that achieving such a standard often costs more than the subsidy provides. It’s supposed to be a subsidy and not a complete government payment takeover (I'm not referring to you here!). Sometimes I have the feeling that the subsidy is only seen as a grant from which something should still be left over in the end. I think it can cost more if necessary, because I also wanted a better-insulated house, Kfw or no Kfw. Isn’t there also the T8 brick? I had read a bit about it at the beginning for our area?
 

parcus

2021-02-18 14:57:51
  • #5
@

? the filling is not the task of the brick, but the statics. Everything else is just a question of where the insulation is placed, whereby the combination of ETICS on the outside and ETICS in the wall is often uneconomical and reduces living space.
 

Kati2022

2021-02-18 14:59:25
  • #6

https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/aussenwandziegel-ungefuellt-gefuellt-oder-objektzieg-waehlen.28381/

Weren't you of a different opinion here? ;)
Sure... that was 2018. May I ask why you are now a supporter of filled bricks? Did you have negative experiences with the hollow ones?
 

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