Exterior wall for KFW 40 (+) with or without ETICS?

  • Erstellt am 2021-02-18 11:23:56

parcus

2021-02-18 19:50:17
  • #1
Monolithic means nothing other than coherent, so every completed wall is monolithic or a composite. The only question is which insulation material and where it is located. Everything else is marketing. Today, thermal bridges are decisive anyway. Often the equivalence proof is missing or not given at all. The question is often whether the calculation is still done according to the old DIN or the new DIN. Ecological and economic considerations are the responsibility of the builder regardless.
 

Zaba12

2021-02-18 19:58:29
  • #2
That is called experience value. I myself have a 36.5cm T8 unfilled and we have no problems with noise from outside. We also don't feel cold at 20.5 degrees in the bathroom. Others feel like they're in "The Day after Tomorrow" at that temperature. In other words, everyone experiences it differently. It's just like tastes. But I don't think much of ETICS. I had it in the last apartment. It's not my building material.
 

RotorMotor

2021-02-18 20:01:49
  • #3
And here too, I would appreciate an explanation. What problems or bad experiences were there?
 

WilderSueden

2021-02-18 20:05:44
  • #4

Styrofoam is trash that in the end can only be burned because it’s no longer useful for anything else. Whether it actually lasts 50 years is another question. Monolithic masonry lasts until demolition. And the building envelope is completely independent of the heating technology ;)
 

pagoni2020

2021-02-18 20:12:32
  • #5
I believe that nowadays—besides the necessary energy saving regulations/KFW requirements—there is often an exaggerated concern about whether the wall construction is better this way or that. I lived for 30 years in a completely normal house with Poroton brick and neither froze in the bathroom nor had headaches from noise; almost every house in the neighborhood was built that way back then and they are all still standing. Such things usually depend on other and especially very individual conditions like personal feelings, the location of the house/rooms, behavior/upbringing of the children/husbands....o_Oo_O etc., that I fully understand. I also believe that there is often more noise INSIDE the house nowadays than is brought in from outside; only the INSIDE noise no longer stands out as much because it is constantly there and perceived as “normal.” Our house was supposed to be built with Liaplan, but since now another shell constructor is doing it and/or the structural engineer, for whatever reason, calculated everything with brick, it will just be built with that. I often like to think about this, but not right now. I would do that if I really had special requirements like a busy street or other noise etc.
 

ypg

2021-02-18 20:34:44
  • #6

No, I'm not writing expertise here. Those who want opinions have gotten mine.
I'm done with ETICS! Plastic, soft, environmentally unfriendly - that's enough for ME not to build with it anymore. If anyone wants absolution here, not from me.

That's the point: total inflexibility for creative people!

Yes, then... top, but no quality. It reduces the quality of the house!
 

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