Current financing offer from the house bank

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Georgian2019

2022-02-24 18:01:59
  • #1

With a 30-year fixed interest rate, after 10 years I also look at how the interest rates/loan-to-value ratios are then: either I refinance at (more favorable conditions) or I enjoy the then comparatively low (old) interest rate. A 0.5% difference over 10 years is a good and affordable risk premium if I thereby possibly buy myself 20 years of lower interest rates in a rising interest rate environment!
And of course I let 30 years at 1.66% with a moderate installment run through, assuming 2% or more inflation per year. Inflation works in my favor, and I prefer to invest salary increases in ETFs/stocks, since the return on the stock market on average is higher than my 1.66% nominal rate.
Whether I am done after 20 years with a higher repayment rate and higher installments and then have to renovate, or whether I finance 30 years with a lower constant installment while salaries increase and have to modernize after 20 years during financing doesn’t really matter. As long as my installment is not set too high from the start...
 

Georgian2019

2022-02-24 18:04:22
  • #2
No building savings contract has a 20-year saving period... and in order to be eligible for allocation, it must be saved accordingly (with zero return). And then add the closing commission to your effective interest rate.
 

WilderSueden

2022-02-24 18:08:15
  • #3
Congratulations. You have just completely rendered the concept absurd. First, you pay a closing fee of 1-1.25%. Then you invest your money at 0.25% or similar for many years instead of putting it into the repayment of your first loan. This whole thing is called a negative interest rate differential business. And the "minimal payment" on your residual debt will rather be in the area of €1000 upwards per month for you to have a home savings contract ready for allocation. And lastly, I have never heard of 1% loan interest with the home savings contract, rather around 2-2.5%. At the beginning, you told us how wonderfully you invest your saved rate in stocks because of the returns and that prices in the Stuttgart area can't go down anyway. Now you come around with a disguised TA...

That’s nonsense to buy pseudo-security instead of putting the money directly into the repayment. By the way, it’s not 0.5% but for me 0.7% or double the interest. It tends not to get cheaper anymore, as you explained extensively. The only thing more pointless than this construction is a TA.
 

guckuck2

2022-02-24 18:42:51
  • #4


Even if you put the 0.7% interest difference into repayment, with today's financing amounts the remaining debt and thus the interest rate risk after 10 years can be existential. One should be aware of this if one wants to take this path.
Everyone evaluates this differently, the initial situations are also different – how high the loan-to-value ratio is, how much free liquidity there is, and what the overall asset situation looks like.

I financed for 20 years because after 10 years the remaining debt, assuming a 2% interest rate increase, was too risky for me. Whether the concern was justified, I will see after 10 years. If the interest rates are cheaper then, I can make a new decision.
 

askforafriend

2022-02-24 22:16:23
  • #5
Safety costs returns. End of discussion :)
 

Georgian2019

2022-02-25 12:25:57
  • #6
No, it’s nonsense to take a higher repayment with 1.4-1.7% nominal interest! You’d rather invest the higher repayment in products with a return greater than 1.7%. Annual inflation is 2% or more. Salary increases at least 1.4% per year (in recent years), with rising inflation rather more than 1.4%. Average annual return on stocks 4% or more. The nominal interest rate is fixed at 1.66% for the next 27 years. I certainly don’t repay more than until retirement to save 1.66% nominal interest over the next 27 years when the nominal interest is almost covered just by salary increases plus extra returns on stocks during that time.
 

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