Very messy parquet laying work - Is rework not possible?

  • Erstellt am 2023-01-19 10:55:33

mayglow

2023-06-23 08:31:47
  • #1
I think suing probably isn’t worth the stress for me (and the amount in dispute is probably too low for the effort). Here, repair likely really means "someone will just go over it again," that would be my layman’s gut feeling. Or do you expect them to replace it completely? I rather suspect that what is achievable/proportionate here is "the floor installer pays for the painter" and not "the floor installer remakes the stairs." And if in the first case the floor installer absolutely refuses, then I don’t know to what extent it would be worth it for me to argue forever.

This is an absolute layman’s opinion and not professional or legal advice.
 

i_b_n_a_n

2023-06-23 10:52:20
  • #2

Have you already paid the order in full or withheld enough money (as leverage)?

If you have withheld, set written deadlines for defect correction, then after fruitless expiry terminate the contract. Assign work to third parties – done. Let the parquet layer sue for payment. Nevertheless, you will then have to advance payment concerning your lawyer (estimated under 1K given the volume?)
If you win, you will get that back too, if there is a settlement you will be stuck with it. If you lose, you also have to pay his lawyer. This can and should not be legal advice on my part, just reflects my current experience with a lawsuit in the construction sector.

If you have already paid everything, I would get a quote for defect correction and then consider whether a legal dispute is worth it. For under 1K defect correction, I (my personal opinion) would not waste my lifetime on it and just pay and then enjoy the beautiful stairs. For your info: my lawsuit is about approx. 20K and I was sued for payment because luckily enough (7K) was withheld as leverage.
 

pim1985

2023-06-30 09:18:38
  • #3


So, we have paid everything; the contract was from January 2023. We were dissatisfied with all the work, but we didn’t want any more stress since the move was delayed anyway. In January, after the work was completed, we asked for a discount because the seams on the doors and windows were cut crookedly and were not sufficiently filled with cork. The parquet layer refused this with the argument that he could straighten the seams, i.e., enlarge them and thus “rework.” Of course, we did not want that—who wants seams over 1.5 cm thick at the doors? The entire stairwell looked terrible, the freshly painted walls were damaged, the stair nosings were extremely dirty, full of glue residues, the seams in the stairwell were not clean and extremely thick. In some places, the baseboards were not flush. The wooden stairs did not fit exactly, although they measured the steps several times; in some places, there was too much space and the seams were thicker. All that plus the unfriendly, uncooperative behavior of the parquet layer we somehow accepted, repaired the problem areas ourselves, and even resigned ourselves to it. About two weeks ago, suddenly there were thick stains on the stair nosings caused by the glue. So six months after the completion of the work, we contacted the parquet layer again and asked for a statement. He did admit that the glue had caused the stains, but said it was our fault because we did not varnish the stair nosings?!! That was not his problem. We responded and sent a letter setting a deadline for rework (replacement of the stair nosings, not just varnishing). So far, he is ignoring us. Silence. We asked a third party company for a cost estimate. Damage control, i.e., just varnishing, would be around €2000 (31 stair nosings). According to the third party company, the parquet layer did not “block off” the stair nosings, which caused the stains. These stair nosings are finished, coated components in different decors that are not to be painted. This was confirmed again by our building surveyor, site manager, and the third party company. We will now seek legal advice and this time we will list all the botched points, because we've had enough. We are talking about a contract sum of €25,000 with a “master craftsman company.”
 

xMisterDx

2023-06-30 19:43:14
  • #4
Yes, 25,000 EUR order amount. But that is not the damage, because you did receive services and refused rework.

And, sorry, but painting 31 kicks, 2,000 EUR? Our ex-landlord is currently having our old apartment painted, 98m² including ceilings for 1,600 EUR.
Wish the painter a speedy recovery, he should apply the paint and not drink so much of it.
 

chand1986

2023-06-30 20:26:12
  • #5
That is extremely cheap then. Only one coat, cheapest paint, and a friend who gives a preferential price and still issues an invoice. And even then hardly believable. A friend of ours, who is a painter, painted for us. 117 sqm including ceilings, walls twice, they were previously colored. 59 hours at 48€. 2688€ without material, without travel costs. We sourced the material through him as equity. And now one room less for so much less? Black? ( I mean, not the walls )
 

xMisterDx

2023-06-30 20:50:45
  • #6
20% more area, we're no longer at 1,600, but at 1,920 EUR. And of course only one coat over white walls, not twice over colored ones. In that respect, your price is even almost better than mine...

But do you want to tell me now that the painter wants to spend 40 hours fluttering around for 31 step edges? A whole work week? Over an hour per step? I myself finished that in 2 8-hour days.
 

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