Very bad and large and shapeless. Replanning tricky - tips

How high is the stable? Are there possibilities to get light in from above

The stable currently has a ceiling height of 2.50m on the ground floor. This height is also aimed for after the conversion. The upper floor has a knee wall of 3m and a height of 8m in the middle of the gable roof. There is virtually no chance of getting light in here with normal financial means.

Yes, now and in 10 or 15 years. Apartment for one of the children? Roof damaged? Demolition to bungalow with a normal roof? What should happen to the extension that is still attached to the stable? How is it used? How should it continue to be used? You always have to keep the entire property in mind, especially for the long term.

The plan is only to convert the ground floor, which is also large enough with 230m2. The roof on the side with the photovoltaic system was redone 8 years ago with trapezoidal sheet metal. On the other side, it would cost about 10-12,000 euros to cover the roof with trapezoidal sheet metal. So the roof is the least of our worries. Housing for the children is also not a problem, we are currently still living in the parental house with 110m2 on the upper floor and 110m2 on the ground floor, where a parent still lives. Demolition to bungalow? We have 400m2 of storage space on the upper floor including the extension, which I would hardly want to sacrifice. The extension still has a barn, a garage, and a stable on the ground floor. All space for tractors, trailers, etc.

Please don’t have the information dragged out of you like that! It’s rather unlikely that the plan is oriented north...? That some rooms cannot be placed somewhere for fire protection reasons (why exactly?) only comes up quite late in the question of whether placement can be random. A site plan of the property would also be good, especially if more than just the building at the bottom of the plan needs to be considered (I assume because of the fire protection note).

Oh yes, out of interest: what happens to the rest of the stable above your head? And in case I missed it: is it already stated somewhere how high the living space is? Old stables are often relatively low compared to the floor area and therefore oppressive...

That living space is not built on the upper floor is mainly due to fire protection. The building authority imposed enormous requirements on us because the upper floor extends all the way to the roof. The rest of the stable above is used as storage space, accessed via an external staircase. An internal staircase is very difficult due to fire protection. The ceiling height of the new living space will be about 2.50 m including the floor covering.

An object to throw money down the drain. Huge investments and in the end you still have no resale value. You have to be very romantically attached to the object to do it. Hopefully you don’t have to finance too much.

What about the floor? Can it be left in or does it possibly have to be replaced because of feces? The differences in height have to be evened out anyway. How high will the ceilings still be then? And those supports in the living room – nice is something else – but not impossible.

If you want, post the current “AS-IS plan” with a north arrow. We have the target plan after all. Maybe a few inspiring ideas will come up. Important are also notes on possible sewage connections and water pipes – is there anything already existing? – then please mark it.

It is certainly a proper investment and we are also romantically attached to the object... after all, the farmhouse has been in our family for about 200 years. The floor has to go, of course, because of the feces, and the finished height will be 2.50 m. The supports in the barn are the real problem, as they are basically immovable; if at all, they could be shifted with a new foundation towards the west or east, since they support a double-T beam that runs in the concrete ceiling. Sewage and water pipes will be new.

It is always like this: drawing the "target" in anything other than the existing plan makes little sense. And without a professional approach, this can easily become a disaster. I get the impression of naive planning.

Yes, where is the architect of this project?

What do you do with 400 sqm of storage space? Do you still store hay or something there?