Very bad and large and shapeless. Replanning tricky - tips

  • Erstellt am 2018-05-23 21:56:10

Abstall

2018-05-24 20:41:27
  • #1


We also assume that we don’t need a roof, which reduces the costs somewhat.....the insulation of course is not dropped. And an advantage of this conversion compared to your proposal to build a new house would also be barrier-free living on one level, which should not be underestimated.
What would be a reason to replace a floor deeper? We have the old building plans here, the current floor has a thickness of 25 cm. Remove the old floor slab and excavate the ground underneath until it is deep enough for the new construction.

The architect’s concerns lay/lie in how the bathroom was planned/is planned.
 

Abstall

2018-05-24 20:47:19
  • #2


What would be a reason to replace more of the floor?

By removing the upper floor, the ground floor is independent and therefore not affected by fire protection measures... except for the 5m fire spread to doors and windows of adjacent buildings... but we have that anyway
 

kaho674

2018-05-24 21:05:54
  • #3

...and the toilet, the storage thing, as well as the questionable bedroom access.

That really only works with absolutely precise measurements.

Well, an ambitious plan. I hope the project will not turn into a bottomless pit. What I don’t understand: why doesn’t the architect make a better proposal?
 

haydee

2018-05-24 21:13:14
  • #4
Are they really prepared to spend months of their free time on a construction site?

Do you want to maintain this huge roof structure for the next 70/80 years without any benefit? It’s not done by just re-roofing.

How old is the barn? Does anyone still know what’s underneath? Everything that was original led to surprises for us. Expensive ones, mind you. For example, the slurry pit under the manure was not 2 meters deep, but almost 4 meters. It was also much larger than the manure heap. The farm had been above it for about 100 years.

You expose parts of the foundation when you replace the old floor slab. Who knows if the ground underneath is buildable. Maybe more has to be removed. We had to learn that the technology standard of 1920 is unbuildable in 2017. We had to support the foundations (which didn’t really exist, as they were built on rock) 30 cm deeper than we needed to go down. We would have had to excavate 40 cm for the floor slab, but the structural engineer demanded support 70 cm deep.

If barrier-free living in old age is used as an argument for this construction method, then please also make the floor plan barrier-free.
 

Abstall

2018-05-24 21:31:23
  • #5




The WC and the storage room are really small, but okay for us. We also know that if we want to integrate the supports, we have to work with a tolerance of +-4cm so that the 16cm supports can be integrated into a 24cm wall.

The architect doesn’t have a better proposal because it is apparently very difficult to plan something in such a large room with only 3 sides of light entry and 6 supports... we have already realized that too.
That is also why we brought up this concern here in the forum, to see if anyone has a better proposal, but our feeling right now is that no one wants us to build or everyone advises against it because it probably isn’t perfect.
I’m not really bothered by the small WC... and you don’t have to be a climber to get onto the toilet bowl.
 

Abstall

2018-05-24 21:47:05
  • #6


Months is now the question... what does an electrician do on the construction site for months... or a plumbing specialist... we are aiming for a construction period of 2 years... so they won’t be working every day continuously.
The entire building is from 1966 and the roof structure still looks like it did on day one. What should I do on the roof structure?
What is under the floor is what was previously picked from the fields as stones and what the "crusher" ground down before it was filled in.
If we remove the soil, I don’t have a bad feeling about it now.
It seems to me you had very bad experiences with a renovation.
Regarding barrier-free design, I am very happy to get help if you still see inconsistencies in the floor plan.
 

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