Single-family house cube without roof with full floor

Hi. Yes, we have one and what he always recommends is a straight staircase so that there is plenty of space upstairs. The financing is almost done and we only have an appointment with him later. Many stair websites recommend a winding staircase because of the space. Sure. But how???? Then there is less space upstairs again, or you have a wall right in front of your face. Fact. And I really have very poor spatial imagination. I want to consider all possibilities.

Regarding the noise level, I have to say that I will use special curtains, so that should not be a problem. The children's rooms have doors.

We like it minimalist, we don't have much. And for the children, we thought of a playroom and a bedroom, and when they no longer want to share, they will be separated. We don't need a retreat either, as I said, we mostly all hang out together.

Oh yes, we have a ceiling height of 2.75 downstairs and upstairs. We can't build a basement because the ground is too wet; so much would have to be pumped out and drained away. Yes, we wanted to build about 180, but as I said, the municipality does not allow nearly 100m2 of green space to be counted. Unfortunately, we only found that out after the purchase. That's why we are now trying to fit our ideas, which we had on 180, onto just under 155m2. We have already removed the fireplace; it would be really great if the architect or you have an idea and maybe it can still be included.

Thanks for your opinions.

How is the financing almost done? You don't even know what you want to build or how much it will cost! You can't be serious, right?

Then I hope you have a generous buffer! Otherwise, I already see the next thread coming.

since it is supposed to be a classic construction and symmetry is a must.

Wrong priorities are never a must, but a don’t

Look for example at – you can achieve an equally balanced (but livelier) overall appearance with well-proportioned apparent asymmetries.

Symmetry and (single-flight) straight stairs together create multiple areas (comparable to “overhang mandates” in parliaments) and then require floor areas in the range of 120 to 150 sqm (per floor!) upwards. Those who do not want to believe it “pay” for it with bottlenecks in hallways / dressing rooms / guest WCs etcetera.

2 architects recommended the straight stairs to us because that provides more space upstairs.

That is nonsense or a simplistic calculation. In the total calculation of step surface and walking-around-the-stairs surface, unfortunately the opposite is the case.

Why do you make it so complicated and don’t take a standard floor plan?

Which Gussek house is that?

Maybe this is a stupid question... but why should a straight stair be more space-saving upstairs than another one?

That is certainly not a stupid question; I am also very curious about the explanation.

Symmetry and (single-flight) straight staircase together create multiple areas (comparable to "overhang mandates" in parliaments) and then require floor areas in the order of 120 to 150 sqm (per floor!) upwards. Those who don’t believe it "pay" for it with bottlenecks in corridors / dressing rooms / guest WCs etc.

Wrong. A straight staircase also works with significantly smaller floor areas than 120 m2. You will be able to convince yourself after mid-December (my floor plans will follow then). Some floor plans have bottlenecks – but not all. And if you want a straight staircase, you want one.

With a staircase, you not only have the staircase itself but also the circulation space that is necessary.

Some types of staircases also restrict the room layout.

Take a 2/4 quarter-turn staircase, push it here against the wall above the entrance. Then a small additional room is created between the child and the parents.

Depends on the floor plan. Narrow houses often have straight stairs.

Only here it runs on dryer over washing machine, dirty laundry is collected in the bathroom, guests who are more frequent sleep in the playroom or children's room, out. And sqm are there without having to plan with makeshift solutions

Unfortunately, I can’t sort the quotes on the iPad. I have some quotes here regarding the topic or my inquiry, but they’re all mixed up. But maybe I’ll just use them as a bridge of thoughts and delete them.

On the one hand, it irritates me that it’s supposed to be a modern, classical flat roof building – with symmetry as a must. Minimalistic equipment with a lattice staircase and show kitchen. On the one hand, somehow contradictory, on the other hand little dreams that cost a fortune: flat roof, high rooms, beams, lattice staircase... the kitchen doesn’t have to be more expensive, that’s just the layout. In my opinion, symmetry doesn’t fit modern architecture. That fits more the conventional city villa.

Es soll ein modern klassischer Stil werden, ein Kubus mit Flachdach ohne Keller

Also wir kochen viel deshalb ist dieser Bereich verhältnismäßig groß. Kochinsel ist ca 3,30 m.

I think it’s good if you put more focus on the kitchen. But 3.30 is 330, somehow more than 400 is drawn in the cabinet row... somehow those cabinets have to be filled... I mean, you don’t have more dishes if you cook daily. Also, no 3 refrigerators or two ovens... working area on a smaller base, through my island diagonal positioning also show effect, I even have more in a modest room. At least our layout is more efficient; with conventional arrangement you use the other side of the island twice, namely also for the dining area. That actually looks a bit careless here and you can see that you can’t move freely.

Mi Casa su Casa. Im Spielzimmer.

Ooh, are visitors allowed to build their kingdom among Lego bricks?

Und da wir eh meistens aufeinander hocken

Viele Treppen Internetseiten empfehlen eine gewandelte Treppe wegen dem Platz. Gerne. Aber wie???? Dann ist oben wiederum weniger Platz, oder man hat direkt ne Wand vorm Gesicht.

Wall in front of the head? For example, with a 2/4-turned staircase, which theoretically could manage with 2-4 sqm for the hallway upstairs, you could stretch this hallway to about 6 sqm so you don’t run into a wall.

Wir mögen es minimalistisch, wir haben nicht viel. Und für die Kinder dachten wir halt an ein Spielzimmer und ein Schlafzimmer und wenn die nicht mehr zusammenwollen, werden sie getrennt. Rückzug brauchen wir auch nicht, wie gesagt wir hocken alle meistens zusammen.

This clustering might be cozy with a toddler, but the child grows older and more headstrong, and should also grow up with their own retreat space in their own home. As a parent, you also stop being a helicopter parent at some point or simply want to withdraw without having to live away from home. You’re not planning the optimal vacation home here, but a home for everyday life. Communal living may be fun, but within the family it only creates hotspots. My opinion.

I’m missing a bit of reality in this project, also because of the targeted construction budget. Not least the site plan. According to the plan, the living area is oriented to the north, the bathroom to the south... I’m curious what the architect will make of it and I’m waiting for that. I’ve already said enough about the design as well as the others. Are you planning to build with a general contractor or individual contracts?