Purchase of land from the market municipality - Internet guarantee, land area number, financing....

Buying a plot of land without a development plan is like buying a pig in a poke. In the current market: Eat or die.

Well, you can try to have that included in the contract. But the municipality will not lay the cable themselves, so the reservation should be made that the provider actually installs it in the end.

If they then say "nope," then there simply won’t be any cable. Then the whole contract is pointless, because in my opinion there is no meaningful "compensation" if there is no cable, as there is no alternative solution, I would say.

I will bring it up and try – by the start of construction at the end of 2016 it should be clear at the latest, otherwise a reversal. The municipality was explicitly advertising this at such an event...

Operating self-employment via LTE... Hm...

Hm no^^ I have about 30-40GB traffic – PER DAY here.

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The floor space ratio is relatively low at 0.35 and therefore corresponds to only 160sqm for "our" plot.
It is not low, it is mostly sufficient.

Ok – but how can that be sufficient if even terrace and garage don’t fit according to that number? Or am I missing something?

Mhmpf – why didn’t you clarify your questions _before_ you applied for the plot?

Well, as I said it was a bit unexpected. We had done it pro forma and actually assumed due to the market situation that we wouldn’t have a chance without 15 kids anyway according to the points system... ;-) Then it was also said that the decision would be in March – now there was info with only 10 days until the first week of January. Kind of strange, there are certainly people who are on vacation over Christmas / New Year's...

You probably hardly read and understood that before the notary appointment. Ask someone who knows about it. That also has the advantage that questions arising in conversation can be answered immediately

I would like to – only it is a bit difficult to get an appointment with an advisor at this time of year at all – that’s why I turn to you all pleading for help :)

Wouldn’t cable internet be enough alternatively? In our region that is already available with 150mbit

Would be okay for now – but there’s hardly any room for improvement there.

Buying a plot without a development plan is like buying a pig in a poke.
In the current market: take it or leave it.

Really tough...

Thanks for all the very helpful input from you!

My plan now looks as follows:

[*]Still try to somehow get an appointment with a lawyer/notary/tax advisor
[*]Ask the municipality for a little more time
[*]Definitely supplement the notary contract with
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[*]Internet guarantee or else withdrawal with interest-bearing money
[*]A somewhat more precise definition regarding "what you are allowed to build"

Quote: Or am I missing something there?

Yes, #5

Quote: Or am I overlooking something? Yes, #5

I saw that, but unfortunately there is nothing about a doubling of the secondary areas. The base area factor is given as 0.35 – that only results in 160 sqm. I will speak with a builder and the municipality as soon as possible :)

I have meanwhile received feedback from the municipality. The 0.35 is indeed correct, there are no exceptions in the development plan for secondary areas.

Therefore, once again the question to all experts:

How is one supposed to build a house there at all?!

I have meanwhile received feedback from the municipality. The 0.35 is indeed correct, there are no exceptions in the development plan for auxiliary spaces.

So again the question to all experts:

How are you supposed to build a house there at all?!

You don't have a problem at all. Be flexible!

Build the house + three parking spaces (does it have to be a double garage, or are parking spaces enough? ;)). The entrance can also be located at the driveway. The terrace will be at most 15 sqm, you don’t need a space for the garbage bins.
Honestly, who cares if your house entrance area (with 20 sqm quite generous) + your terrace end up being larger after all. Or if you build a shed. Or or or.

Simply plan creatively with the architect, he will, for example, only use the terrace as a placeholder anyway. Why do two parking spaces have to be in front of your garage, it could also be a single garage + two parking spaces, one of which is a "parking space" = entrance area.

Don’t just whine :rolleyes: