Prefab house made of Neopor - experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2016-01-26 17:49:06

hotzgeM

2021-07-25 21:00:15
  • #1
Thank you for the very important report!

As someone interested in Neopor, it makes you feel uneasy again and you regret not simply accepting the fixed price from the builder using Ytong 1.5 years ago.

I still have a few questions:
- In which earthquake zone do you live (apparently not 3, otherwise there would have been a structural engineering check).
- From your perspective, is it even feasible to lay and reinforce the stones alone and to install the guide supports?

Best regards
 

Daany29

2021-07-25 23:13:59
  • #2
No idea which earthquake zone we are in but I received a thick structural engineering report and various reinforcement plans. Basically, it can be done alone. I set out almost the entire ground floor by myself. We were two people reinforcing. The rest also two people. Ideally, there would be 3 people. 1 sets out, 2 cut and carry. Find a bricklaying crew on eBay Classifieds. Costs about €20 per hour plus VAT. You can never set the stones and place the guide supports as fast as the walls go up. 14 working days at 10 hours and you have everything finished so the roof can go on for a normal house including [Bpl]. Just under €10,000 gross. Stones, mortar, and the precast concrete ceiling don’t cost the earth.
 

Passiv.H.N

2021-12-07 12:19:25
  • #3
Hello PassivLu Sven how did you do the ventilation? I am in the process of planning a house. Greetings Biser
 

11ant

2021-12-07 13:16:30
  • #4

I will add an "@" for you so that also gets a notification that you mentioned him.
 

Passiv.H.N

2021-12-07 17:44:26
  • #5
Thank you 11ant! Very kind! Regards Biser
 

PassivLu

2021-12-10 09:50:25
  • #6
Hello Passiv.H.N.
I had the ventilation planned and then installed all 11 decentralized fans. Drilled core holes, insulated the plastic sleeves beforehand, and inserted them into the wall. The fans go in there. Mount the cover on the outside, attach the wiring inside, and snap on the inner cover. You can also insert a pipe through the wall, seal it, and then pour the concrete.
It’s a lot of work and you constantly learn more.
As Daany already said, a lot of planning and experience are necessary. My statics were terrible. Fortunately, I could talk to the guy and had hooks made from the baskets. That made it easier. In return, I had to tie all the parts together. If you want to build with these systems and realize everything yourself as much as possible, you really need to find out if the huge window works easily with the system. Everything is doable. But whether I snap in a ridiculous 4x12 rebar in 5 minutes standard at euromac2 or have to thread 4x16 iron bars in the tightest space and spend hours on it.
For me, the braces held, and I have already reinforced some corners on purpose. My garage was poured in one piece. Highest point 6.4m. Nothing flew away.
Elsewhere, I had two breakouts and the concrete was set too thin. The experienced concrete pump guy said it was good according to his experience. But he usually pumps all around and then only 50cm, not like at euromac2, 3m in one go.
I’m looking forward to hotzege (maybe) building with euromac2 and maybe being allowed to stack a few stones again (if I’m allowed to come). That definitely goes faster and easier than carrying regular stones.
One should not forget one thing. This is house building and a ton of work. Normally, there are professionals who make the masons look old with such a system and enjoy the evenings without having moved two tons of stones. My neighbors had the shell structure up within two weeks... including the slab. They would still have to assemble the stones from front and rear parts. The alignment supports were fixed with wire... and they also pour up to three meters in one go.
That would be it for now...
Have fun planning
 

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