dertill
2022-11-29 12:12:17
- #1
We are currently in the process of (notary is currently drafting the purchase contract) buying a farmstead in Schleswig-Holstein to combine living and working (self-employed with animals) under one roof. As a family of four, we are moving together with my mother-in-law onto the property. The larger residential part is virtually ready to move in and is not up for discussion here. For my mother-in-law, the part of the farmyard currently used as a stable is to be partially converted.
Approximately 80m² are to be used for the apartment, the part facing the courtyard for my wife’s business and/or as a guest WC for farm guests. In the middle of the house, between the old residential unit and the stable, there is an unheated continuous threshing floor. Access to the apartment can gladly be made through here, which can also be used as a hallway for coats/shoes.
I have drawn a draft of how a layout could look, but somehow it doesn’t seem quite right.
Here is the questionnaire, which I have purposefully shortened:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: Building structure is fixed, listed building protection, facade may not be significantly altered
Slope: no
Building window, building line, and boundary: see above
Number of floors: Expansion on the ground floor, upper floor is only a hayloft
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: desired - farmhouse / country house / built in the 1880s
Orientation: west and north
Further specifications: Facade is under monument protection. Window and door openings are predetermined. In the middle runs a beam with two load-bearing pillars (circled in red on the floor plan). These cannot be moved. Bottom right is the old milk chamber. The walls from the chamber to the rest of the stable could be removed. The door plan bottom left can be bricked up or fitted with window / patio door.
Clients’ requirements
Number of people, age: 1, newly retired, dog
Space requirement on ground and upper floor: living kitchen, bedroom, utility room corner, bathroom
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: practically none, because a holiday apartment is additionally available
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: conservative (I don’t quite understand)
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, island possible but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 5
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: small media corner
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace and garden facing north and west, according to picture, 3D view shows 4:00 pm in summer
Garage, carport: separate, does not need to be considered
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: only terrace and safe dog run
Further wishes/particularities/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
The outdoor area faces north and west, and to the west is the street as well as two large (historically protected) chestnut trees in the garden. My biggest concern is that 1. enough light comes into the house and 2. that there is some sun in the garden. For the latter, there is also a shared backyard with southern orientation.
Behind the wall to the west is the street, outside the town, but little trafficked. The wall is not yet built, but according to the new Schleswig-Holstein state building code, a height of 2 m is permitted.
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Low expansion effort, walls utilize existing posts.
What do you not like? Why?
I would like the door plan bottom left to be open as a second exit, but I have not found any space for media / sofa corner.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: N.A.
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Much will be done by ourselves: drywall construction, floor construction and insulation, electrical work up to connection box.
Preferred heating technology:
Probably a multi-split air conditioning system (4 indoor units, 1 outdoor unit on the hayloft) and wall-mounted hot water heat pump, not using the existing central heating of the house.
If you have to do without, which details / expansions:
- can you do without: everything else is negotiable
- cannot do without: daylight bathroom, open kitchen and dining area
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
e.g. Specifications of the building structure, heritage protection, and requirements.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can the living area be planned and divided purposefully without ending up with a large hall and inefficient use of space.
Many thanks in advance :)
[ATTACH alt="Grundriss Stallausbau IST.png" type="full"]76582[/ATTACH]

Approximately 80m² are to be used for the apartment, the part facing the courtyard for my wife’s business and/or as a guest WC for farm guests. In the middle of the house, between the old residential unit and the stable, there is an unheated continuous threshing floor. Access to the apartment can gladly be made through here, which can also be used as a hallway for coats/shoes.
I have drawn a draft of how a layout could look, but somehow it doesn’t seem quite right.
Here is the questionnaire, which I have purposefully shortened:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: Building structure is fixed, listed building protection, facade may not be significantly altered
Slope: no
Building window, building line, and boundary: see above
Number of floors: Expansion on the ground floor, upper floor is only a hayloft
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: desired - farmhouse / country house / built in the 1880s
Orientation: west and north
Further specifications: Facade is under monument protection. Window and door openings are predetermined. In the middle runs a beam with two load-bearing pillars (circled in red on the floor plan). These cannot be moved. Bottom right is the old milk chamber. The walls from the chamber to the rest of the stable could be removed. The door plan bottom left can be bricked up or fitted with window / patio door.
Clients’ requirements
Number of people, age: 1, newly retired, dog
Space requirement on ground and upper floor: living kitchen, bedroom, utility room corner, bathroom
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: practically none, because a holiday apartment is additionally available
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: conservative (I don’t quite understand)
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, island possible but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 5
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: small media corner
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace and garden facing north and west, according to picture, 3D view shows 4:00 pm in summer
Garage, carport: separate, does not need to be considered
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: only terrace and safe dog run
Further wishes/particularities/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
The outdoor area faces north and west, and to the west is the street as well as two large (historically protected) chestnut trees in the garden. My biggest concern is that 1. enough light comes into the house and 2. that there is some sun in the garden. For the latter, there is also a shared backyard with southern orientation.
Behind the wall to the west is the street, outside the town, but little trafficked. The wall is not yet built, but according to the new Schleswig-Holstein state building code, a height of 2 m is permitted.
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Low expansion effort, walls utilize existing posts.
What do you not like? Why?
I would like the door plan bottom left to be open as a second exit, but I have not found any space for media / sofa corner.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: N.A.
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Much will be done by ourselves: drywall construction, floor construction and insulation, electrical work up to connection box.
Preferred heating technology:
Probably a multi-split air conditioning system (4 indoor units, 1 outdoor unit on the hayloft) and wall-mounted hot water heat pump, not using the existing central heating of the house.
If you have to do without, which details / expansions:
- can you do without: everything else is negotiable
- cannot do without: daylight bathroom, open kitchen and dining area
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
e.g. Specifications of the building structure, heritage protection, and requirements.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can the living area be planned and divided purposefully without ending up with a large hall and inefficient use of space.
Many thanks in advance :)
[ATTACH alt="Grundriss Stallausbau IST.png" type="full"]76582[/ATTACH]