Photovoltaic system: Costs, saving potential? - Experiences?

The provider of the storage and also the power cloud is Senec. The energy company behind it is EnBW. What do you think of Senec?

The provider of the storage and also the power cloud is Senec. As an energy company, EnBW is behind it.

12*43.95€ = 527.40€ costs per year for 4,000kwh

For 4000kwh I only see 60.95€/month + 100€/year = 831€
Where are the cheap tariffs?

Why is your consumption actually so high?

Also these 4,000 kWh cost me a total of €887.40 per year, which corresponds to a price of 22.19 cents/kWh.

No, because you only get the contract if you also simultaneously buy the overpriced photovoltaic system and the overpriced storage. In addition, you have already forgotten the VAT and income tax with this figure.

No, because you only get the contract if you simultaneously buy the overpriced photovoltaic system and the overpriced storage.

I surprisingly did not find that to be the case in his situation. 900€/kWp for 1kWp is actually rather cheap currently. And 6k€ for the 10kWh storage can also be okay, however, he mentioned something about 2k€ subsidy. Then the storage would of course be too expensive. Because the subsidy could also have been applied to a cheaper storage.

I have now also looked at the site. Slowly, the comprehension problem becomes clear to me... Could it be that photovoltaics and storage are already present completely independently of the cloud provider? That would explain this calculation. Usually, cloud providers offer the hardware and contract basically on a "rental" basis as a package. Here, after a first reading, it seems more like a normal electricity supply contract with assignments of the Renewable Energy Sources Act remuneration.

Then all the more remains the mystery about the VAT declarations and income tax declaration from last year?

For 4000kwh I only see €60.95/month + €100/year = €831 Where are the cheap tariffs? Why is your consumption actually so high?

This is the price list for new customers. We still have the old prices. Senec significantly raised the prices at the turn of the year. Whether the price increase will reach us soon I cannot yet judge. Our consumption is about 9,000kwh per year, as we have an LWWP.

I have now also looked at the site. Slowly the understanding problem explains itself to me... Could it be that photovoltaic and storage are already present completely independently of the cloud provider? That would then explain this calculation. Usually, cloud providers offer the hardware and contract sort of "rented" in a package. Here, at first reading, it rather seems to be a normal electricity supply contract with assignments of the Renewable Energy Act compensation. Then all the more remains the mystery of the VAT declarations and income tax declaration of last year?

That is correct. Photovoltaic system and storage were procured independently of the cloud contract. The cloud contract was concluded shortly after the system was commissioned. VAT had to be paid monthly last year and quarterly this year. But as I already said, I did not include this. That would of course change the calculation of the profitability of the storage. I have to recalculate that again. The cloud contract has no effect on the VAT since it has to be paid anyway, with or without the cloud contract.