Photovoltaic system: Costs, saving potential? - Experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2020-01-16 10:50:38

halmi

2020-05-21 13:12:49
  • #1
it's actually not that difficult, you just have to calculate what the system brings you, so in other words self-consumption + feed-in tariff and then compare that to the investment. You are mixing too much here, your maintenance costs are also way too high.

Example:

10 kWp system costs €12,500

it generates 10,000 kWh p.a.

of which 6500 kWh feed-in and 3500 kWh self-consumption.

6500 kWh x 9.875 cents (my own tariff) = ~€650 p.a.
3500 kWh x 25.07 cents (my electricity costs) = ~€875 p.a.

= ~€1525 p.a.

You can then also calculate your small amount of interest and for instance another €150 for maintenance, repair and insurance. I leave the conclusions to you.
 

tomtom79

2020-05-21 13:24:10
  • #2
Unfortunately, electricity prices depend on the region; in a test with different postal codes, I had nearly a 10 cent per kW difference compared to the Berlin/Stuttgart area.
 

guckuck2

2020-05-21 15:54:36
  • #3
From 2021, the CO2 taxation begins. Currently, it is again stated that the majority of the revenues should benefit the reduction of the Renewable Energy Act surcharge by 75%. Nationwide, this would make the kWh of electricity about 5 cents cheaper.

This naturally puts even more pressure on calculations per storage. The (economic) desire for high self-consumption also receives a setback as a result.
 

Fuchur

2020-05-21 19:10:29
  • #4

I don't believe in the 8 cents. On the one hand, we are already very close to 8.x today, on the other hand, the development of the Renewable Energy Act after the 52 GW cap is completely open. Personally, I consider it completely impossible that the subsidy will increase again. The discussion is rather about different models with significantly lower feed-in tariffs (goal: self-consumption systems).

Conclusion: profitability calculations for 2021 are a waste of time and current offers will no longer be valid by then anyway.
 

DaSch17

2020-05-21 19:30:40
  • #5


Certainly more fits on it. But we would like to install only as much on the roof as we could theoretically consume ourselves. In my opinion, it makes no sense to fully cover the entire roof with photovoltaic if it is not clear what will happen to the feed-in tariff in the future.

After dealing a bit with the topic, I assume that in the long term feed-in will hardly be subsidized anymore and with technical development, complete self-consumption via storage is the future. Why should I then have more photovoltaic than necessary and, if in doubt, waste the overproduction? Better to install less photovoltaic now and retrofit a battery storage in a few years when they are more powerful and cheaper.

As already written here, the electricity price strongly depends on the supply region. There are certainly offers for 24-25 cents per kWh, but I prefer to calculate conservatively with 29 cents...

The 420 EUR p.a. consist of maintenance/wear, cleaning, and insurance.



Your calculation is certainly correct if I want to know when my photovoltaic system pays off. But I am more interested in the economic advantage compared to the usual external electricity supply.



I share that opinion, see above.

Therefore, my strategy would be: photovoltaic system calculated for self-consumption now on the roof and take the feed-in tariff in the first years. As soon as the investment in a storage system pays off, buy one and celebrate independence from external energy. Is this thought completely wrong?

But we already have to decide for or against a photovoltaic system now. The house concept is already or will be finalized by the end of the year.
 

Fuchur

2020-05-21 19:36:28
  • #6
Why do you have to decide now? Consider empty conduits and done. Now integrating something "conceptual" only causes costs without value.
 

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