Photovoltaic system: Costs, saving potential? - Experiences?

2020-01-21 13:40:52

If you just throw a formula somewhere, you should at least explain something about it. I’m completely lost!

And what does the fact whether something is purchased with equity or financed through debt have to do with the decision about KUR or not? It’s only about the VAT that you can reclaim and that you have to pay on private use. It doesn’t matter at all how the equipment was financed.

But yes, the effect is of course greater the higher the equipment costs are. But I still maintain that even with smaller equipment it’s worth it if you calculate the hours spent against the effort.

Regards
Specki

2020-01-21 13:43:54

Yes, you first have to achieve such an hourly wage in other areas.

Here is the full quote from 's article

And shortly thereafter he also expressed what many in the German solar industry had been waiting a long time for. "We will lift the subsidy cap for photovoltaics," Altmaier explained. Although this has actually been political consensus since the presentation of the climate package in autumn 2019, the Minister of Economic Affairs had so far found it extremely difficult to say this publicly, as Altmaier had "invented" the 52-gigawatt cap due to the then high costs of photovoltaics and written it into the Renewable Energy Act when he was Federal Minister for the Environment. However, Altmaier said nothing at the conference about exactly when the photovoltaic cap would be lifted. Only that he was confident that the 65-percent renewables target would be achieved by 2030 and that more offshore wind farms should be built alongside photovoltaics to achieve this.

2020-01-21 14:19:22

If you just throw a formula somewhere, you should at least explain something about it. I don’t understand a thing!

And what does the fact whether something is bought with equity or financed through debt have to do with the decision to do KUR or not?
It’s merely about the VAT that can be reclaimed and the VAT that has to be paid on personal use. It doesn’t matter at all how the system was financed.

But yes, the effect is naturally greater the higher the system costs are. But I stick to my point: even with smaller systems it’s worth it if you calculate the hours you spend on the effort.

Regards
Specki

I have named where you can find the most detailed explanation about it. First hit on Google.

I haven’t said anything about financing or equity, have I?

Furthermore, I wrote that in my specific case it would bring about €400, but I probably don’t care. For example, if I buy an electric car the day after tomorrow and charge it at home, my personal consumption will increase massively and I might even have to pay for it. The personal tax rate also plays a role; mine is stated above in the calculation. The break-even point for me is about 4500 kWh of personal consumption.

2020-01-21 14:36:58

What I also find funny about the whole tax office topic: Our neighbors built a photovoltaic system about 3 years ago, I once asked them how they dealt with the tax office. They looked like two fawns and had no clue that they had to report anything to the tax office. Certainly not a unique case(?). A friend bought a house with a photovoltaic system, he knew that he somehow had to report it to the tax office, but since neither the owners nor the realtor nor anyone else had any idea how and what, he just left it...

2020-01-21 14:58:10

I didn't write anything about financing or equity?

Sorry, I misread. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. It might work out. But if the tax office finds out, there will be big trouble. And since the energy supplier who pays the feed-in tariff naturally also reports this to the tax office, it is quite possible that the tax office will eventually notice that the "counterpart" to it does not appear anywhere in your records. I don't know how quickly they link such information or how likely it is that they will find out. But I wouldn't take the risk.

2020-01-21 15:53:39

From today's issue of the Photovoltaic Magazine:

At the "Handelsblatt Energy Summit 2020," Federal Minister for Economic Affairs P. Altmaier announced that the GW cap will be abolished.

Why don’t you put the photovoltaic system into operation? You don’t need a grid connection or meter for that and secure the currently valid subsidy amount? Possibly connect to construction power.

Similar topics
03.04.2012	Buying a house without equity?	29
09.04.2013	Is financing a photovoltaic system unprofitable?	11
26.12.2014	No disbursement of funding - Tax office is slow	44
08.12.2014	Smaller photovoltaic system 2 KWp	11
12.02.2015	Photovoltaic systems & storage systems collective thread	21
05.06.2015	Photovoltaic system for hot water preparation and feeding	15
20.11.2015	Solar / Photovoltaic from an economic perspective	53
08.01.2016	Photovoltaic system: self-consumption rate with battery and further questions	27
23.02.2016	Photovoltaic + Battery - Which System - Experiences?	17
06.04.2016	Financing for 15 or 20 years? Photovoltaics via KFW?	10
10.07.2016	Air-water heat pump with photovoltaics or pellet with solar	25
13.07.2016	Photovoltaic storage - experiences? Tips?	17
10.10.2017	New photovoltaic system with storage in single-family house - experiences	39
18.12.2016	Introduction to Photovoltaics (New Construction)	25
12.06.2017	The tax office wants to know how we are financing our construction project	50
17.05.2017	Photovoltaics initially without storage	54
20.10.2017	Roof with photovoltaic or other investment, any experiences?	19
23.10.2020	Photovoltaics - Questions about Tax/Business	78
09.12.2019	Can a photovoltaic system be included in financing retroactively?	27
02.03.2020	Is a photovoltaic system also sensible in the west or east?	78

Photovoltaic system: Costs, saving potential? - Experiences?

Specki

ludwig88sta

halmi

Lumpi_LE

Specki

CrazyChris