Two TVs on Sat. One of them from the flea market for 50,-: a basic early Grundig flat, indestructible. An old DVD player from Philips. It runs and runs. Then a stereo receiver from Yamaha and a CD player, on Canton fonum. No Spotify, no computer in the living room, just iPad, technology I understand. Different times. And when I visit old people, like 80+. Then it looks even simpler. TV, radio, end. Works too. Karsten