Initial floor plan on graph paper: slope, basement + 2 floors.

  • Erstellt am 2021-01-02 13:09:25

11ant

2021-01-11 14:02:24
  • #1
Schabblih, you can also pronounce that very well in Franconian, but it definitely doesn't belong in sausage.
 

Climbee

2021-01-11 14:31:23
  • #2
My predecessors have already written a lot.

Dressing room: we have 220 cm interior width, on one side a normally deep wardrobe (61 cm) and on the other side one with 45 cm depth. The passage is comfortable like this, but if we had two 60 cm wardrobes, it would feel somewhat claustrophobic. I wouldn't want less.

With 500,000€ you won't make it like this, even with the cheapest floor class for you.

I would consider swapping the kitchen and living room; direct access from the kitchen to the terrace is more important and I can imagine that the view from where the kitchen is now is amazing. I would rather comfortably look out from the couch there.
 

majuhenema

2021-01-11 21:33:31
  • #3


Thank you for your input and the two photos. I really like the dressing room and the measurements help a lot.



On the one hand, I completely understand the "as short paths as possible" principle. On the other hand, I find it hard to let go of the idea of having the living room in the north and the kitchen in the south and, based on gut feeling, I am more in favor of the original plan.
 

Hangman

2021-01-23 17:56:54
  • #4
Hello Maju & Co,

I registered here especially because of you, as I find your pragmatic, open, and fearless approach very likeable.

Independent of room layout and other already mentioned points, one or two food for thought from me:

As I understand it, the basement is almost completely buried and only the small office has living quality. If you can do without that in the basement, the basement could possibly be designed purely as a utility area. So without insulation, sealing, waterproof concrete, etc. Just raw concrete to house cars, bikes, garden stuff, and building technology. The entrance would probably then have to be taken out of the thermal envelope and possibly protected from the weather in another way. I am not an expert, but maybe that is simpler, more fault-tolerant, and cheaper. Even if you take the saved money for enlarging the ground/top floor, I would still find it better because then you gain "above ground" living space and reduce stairways. In this context: why is the house actually narrower at the back? That only results in shadows/dirty corners, especially since the view goes forward, right? If anything, I would make it wider at the back.

Otherwise, I am looking forward to your next posts with excitement. It will definitely be great!!!
 

majuhenema

2021-01-24 18:53:36
  • #5
Wow, many thanks, !

At this point, I’m sending you an interim report from us. So far, we have had three initial meetings. Two of these were with prefabricated house manufacturers and one with a general contractor (GU). Next week, we still have the initial meeting with another GU (our secret favorite). One last GU is only scheduling appointments again from 14.02.

One prefabricated house manufacturer is already out due to the vibe with the sales representative. The other two meetings went very well. The sobering fact: Both have (logically independently) roughly estimated the house (house, basement, earthworks, supports) at 650,000 euros.

This breaks down into:
197 m2 living space x 2,350 - 2,500 euros = 492,000 euros
Basement including earthworks = 90,000 euros
Support measures = 70,000 euros

We have now called our initial draft posted here "Version L." We have shortened this to "Version M." Version M looks like this specifically:

- We shortened the open space from 6m to 5m. This makes the front cuboid 12 m2 smaller.
- We removed the balcony on the top floor because it would be very expensive.
- Because the ground floor is 1m less deep, we can do without the overhang of the basement ceiling for the "round run" in front and possibly create it "naturally" and therefore cheaper by enlarging the basement.

We have gone through the financing again, and with the mentioned 550,000 euros, we still have some room to spare. We hope that we will make it with Version M and the budget increase. Should it still not work with "Version M," we have considered the saving potential for a "Version S." The procedure grounds us; on the other hand, I am grateful to probably be able to build such a house at all, in whatever version. :) /Kitschoff
 

askforafriend

2021-02-13 23:16:47
  • #6
do you have an update for us?
 

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