pagoni2020
2020-07-03 12:30:54
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But it was also normal that an income was enough to support a family. It was normal that collective wage agreements raised wages above the inflation rate. It was normal that interest on savings accounts was paid at 6 or 7 percent. It was normal that building land was dirt cheap, it was normal that you didn’t have to spend enormous sums on energy-saving measures because heating didn’t cost a fortune. It was normal to have a family exempted from real estate transfer tax, and so on.
Many of the single-family homes from the 60s have large plots, lots of living space, full basements, masonry garages, etc. Sure, that cost something even back then, but just try to afford such a thing these days as an average earner in an acceptable location...
Today there are towel-sized gardens, hardly any basements, often just a carport... and nevertheless such things are no longer affordable for more and more families or you have to move very far away from the nearest metropolitan center.
The times are hard to compare, but I do believe that an average-earning family with 1.5 incomes was better off with home ownership in the 60s than today.
Oh dear, I almost want to ask about your age and background when you make such bold claims.
By pure coincidence, you describe almost exactly the circumstances and times as I have EXPERIENCED them myself and not just know from books or homeland films. There is – as always – a drastic difference between having read/heard something and having personally experienced it.
My father went straight from his workday and a snack to the next job or into the garden for vegetables because supermarkets neither existed nor were affordable. My mother walked two hours early every morning into the forest while eight months pregnant with me, worked there for 8 hours doing forestry work, and then walked two hours back home. There was no husband working from home (he was at another workplace until 8 p.m.) and no dishwasher or washing machine, etc., but a child who played outside alone after school or was with relatives until mom came back home. No antenatal classes or other wonderful things we have today (I have heard of them), no, I was even born at home (in the living room during the moving period).
What you are telling is... sorry... absolute nonsense. Plots of land (ours had 420 sqm) were often also used for subsistence in the 60s, full basements for storing fruit, potatoes, food, etc. (and not for saunas or gyms), and yes, large living areas only for very few (we had 90 sqm with two families, one bathroom plus guest toilet). Back then there were not many construction companies, because they were all on their own sites themselves, first to arrive and last to leave (what do they call it today 7/24).
What you consider today as a so-called "average earner" is something completely different than back then (today with partly nice collective agreements, occupational disability insurance, insurance of all kinds). If you had to live today in the standard you describe as a comparison, you would cry all day instead of complaining that you are being forced to build energy-efficiently – sorry.
In 1960 there was predominantly NO central heating, but boilers and wood stoves, and hardly anyone had a car (our school route was 5 km on foot, to the swimming pool 7 km, each way).
You write "only a carport," oh dear... back then people did not even have a car, and the family’s old bike stood by the house wall.
I don’t know what movies you have seen or maybe someone from the generation that built in the 60s does not want to offend you, but you can tell after one sentence that you have sat through a fairy tale or are telling the story of one of the very few.
Interest? Maybe there were even 10%, no idea? The average citizen (whom you call "average earner") didn’t know that because he had no money to invest anyway. You are clearly talking about a very small group of people at that time, you should mention that.
I find it almost annoying and narrow-minded of you that in the year 2020 in Germany!! you complain so much and glorify the good old 60s without having a clue about it.
I read that you apparently suffer and complain, sorry; but that has nothing to do with the decade or Germany, even if you can certainly view many things critically today.
I can show you places in the world where people live today more or less as a parent generation did in the 60s you mentioned. You should live there for just a single year under identical conditions; not as a day trip from a cruise ship or as a "visit to locals and their oh-so-typical traditions"... as a real life with really ALL side effects, fears, and worries.
I repeat myself: you would run crying back home and never go there again AND... you would no longer judge things you don’t know at all.