How expensive can the property be?

  • Erstellt am 2020-07-23 17:20:13

kandamir

2020-07-24 22:01:21
  • #1


Hello Pasha,

the 800 euros are really unrealistic, besides food and clothing, which many families alone already need this amount just for these, there are also the following items:

    [*]Costs for drugstore / hygiene articles, cosmetics, medicines
    (especially with a toddler, there are always large items at the drugstore)
    [*]Vacations
    [*]Costs for leisure activities (eating ice cream, swimming pool, cinema, amusement park, attending festivals, etc.)
    [*]Car costs (inspection / repairs / fuel / insurance / service / reserves for new purchase)
    [*]Special expenses for purchases for the children (vehicles, furniture, toys)
    [*]Savings for children and adults
    [*]Costs for consumption (purchase of new electronic devices (notebook, mobile phone), tools, kitchen appliances, furniture, etc.)
    [*]Expenses for gifts or hosting celebrations (birthday / baptism)
    [*]Disability or life insurance
    [*]Private retirement provision
    [*]Donations
    [*]Hobby and pets
    [*]Garden (flowers, plants, etc.)
    [*]etc.

So you want to cover all these items with only 800 euros?
 

Egberto

2020-07-25 00:07:58
  • #2
Donations?!

With that income, people here in the forum go to the food bank, they don’t donate
 

ypg

2020-07-25 10:00:22
  • #3

That may be because the public sector is not provided with the great fast devices like in the private sector.

I find this discussion about civil servants awful. I myself am an employee in the public sector, working alongside civil servant colleagues. They bust their butts for your safety while you compare apples to oranges or equate civil servants with "lazy teachers."
And yes, I receive much less net pay even though I do the same work. But I chose back then not to do civil servant training/studies.
And tearing each other apart about it, as you can see quite well in this thread, while sitting in a private sector job where you earn twice as much – and still having plenty of time during the day all year round to liven up a forum – is dishonest towards yourself. The teachers here are in the minority.

I will say no more... the whole thing is quite unfair... I mean the pub talk and outdated civil servant rules.



So, Mr. Pasha, here the comparison of sour apples and sweet pears begins. Are you aware that there are quite a few additional ancillary costs for the house? We keep writing about it, but you have not addressed it!





Then I must also mention that a lot of money is spent every month simply on the land, garden, and interior, which does not occur in an apartment. This – and my calculation of how much a house costs to purchase – is ignored by you.
The garden area: you also have to finance that because no money comes in little by little for purchases.


Your wife as well as your child/children? (You unfortunately did not address the question of whether you already have one and a second is coming or if it is just one) are two unknowns here. Since you are certainly not a civil servant in a mathematical field, you have to be told that you cannot simply leave out your unknowns. Also, you contradict yourself with full-time and part-time. Which is it now? You calculate with full-time for what? Whoever already no longer receives parental allowance and then is absent from the labor market for an additional 12 years will contribute €450 to the household. You cannot expect more than that.



Then take a closer look at the 300 sqm plot and consider how many square meters of living space you can actually build.

I stick to my point: with beautified books and strained considerations and "the main thing is something of your own," you do not make life beautiful for yourself. Several people with grown children have already regretted having worked only for the house. The family suffers over the years.
 

Ysop***

2020-07-25 10:41:59
  • #4
For me, it is actually quite clear that it is the first child. Nevertheless, pasha should fill out the questionnaire properly so that more information is obtained. Otherwise, the impression of sugarcoating remains. The keyword "Warmmiete" has already been mentioned.
 

hampshire

2020-07-25 11:10:28
  • #5
The own property should always be only slightly less expensive than what one can afford. The property as an investment should always be only as expensive as to yield a positive ROI and the liquidity burden remains well manageable even in case of possible temporary income shortfalls.

Whether, for example, a sqm tile then costs 30, 300, or 3000 € is then completely irrelevant.
 

Maschi33

2020-07-25 14:11:09
  • #6

Unfortunately, these are experiences, not regulars’ table slogans. My wife came from the private sector (law firm), earned almost half as much there, had significantly more pressure, and had to perform much more than she does now. The good ones usually manage to finish their daily work easily within 5 hours. Those who are committed then often carry the many low performers along out of goodwill so that the department doesn’t completely sink. But she has since given up on that; it simply doesn’t pay off because (extra) performance is absolutely 0.0 appreciated and rewarded. So then they just do the job by the book and spend the rest of the time drinking coffee and chatting. I can’t even blame her for that; this resignation, I believe, is human. In my opinion, that is the biggest problem with civil service: the absolutely performance-independent pay. Someone who delivers 20% gets the same salary as someone who delivers 120%. In private industry, it’s like this: either you deliver performance or you leave or are forced out. Civil servants cannot be gotten rid of due to insufficient performance, only if they commit a really serious crime. Of course, they know that very well. Years ago, there was a case here where a civil servant embezzled from a public fund over several years, totaling in the mid five-figure range. In the end, this civil servant did not lose his civil servant status. That is then, of course, no longer justifiable to the general public, regardless of what fates lie behind it.
 

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