Alessandro
2020-07-24 13:46:46
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and I know surgeons who earn less than teachers with an A14 salary
The living expenses for 3 people are probably estimated higher by the bank, more towards 1000€ - 1100€. You don’t know the expenses for the child, but they are certainly about the amount of child benefit, rather more. Very frugal people manage with 50€, but I don’t assume that here.
How high is your continuous saving rate – or have you kept a household budget? Have you already saved 1,500€ every month for months? And have you included all the additional costs for the house? You don’t pay just the installment. The rule of thumb is max. 1/3 of the income for housing, and additional costs are better included in that. Without your partner’s job, I consider your idea of up to 1,300€ installment unrealistic. But even with 3,900€ it gets tight if you haven’t included holidays, all insurances, or a car reserve, as you wrote.
Too poor creditworthiness. Not even assets after buying the plot (that goes for additional costs, the rest is balanced with the Bafög loan). And I already said something about the installment. For full financing most banks require more than 2% repayment – for that you also get poor conditions.
Calculate with a factor 4 annuity = 330€ per 100,000 loan.
Means conversely:
You invest 8,000 € to immediately and sustainably increase your household surplus by 130 €.
For 130 € you currently get about 40,000 € more loan from the bank.
So why not repay immediately?
Why desperately look for options?
A house is expensive... without equity anyway... hardly affordable on one income.
For me it starts at 4,000€ to even think about it. But there are different constellations (equity, EL, other circumstances) that make many things possible. But here at 3,100 I don’t see that.
100,000 plot, 320,000 house with basement, 50,000 everything else ... as sole earner you won’t get a loan.
Also not as a civil servant. That status is outdated.
And just take your presumed 1,200, add additional costs of 300€, and then you are missing entire items like daycare, child costs, your clothing, advertising costs, new purchases, reserves... vacation is also a thing...
And how many children will it be then? One or two children? You speak of “baby”, but the baby will become an expensive toddler, a schoolchild and then a teenager with smartphone and “Hilfiger sneakers”... Your calculation doesn’t add up. Also don’t understand how nowadays someone doesn’t work at all. Your wife has no employment except with you? Each to their own, but then it’s rent or apartment.
If there is no building obligation on the plot, it is your dream location, and such plots are rare on the market, then you can just buy it first and pay off with your desired rate of 1,500 Euro within 5 years. Then even with a second child soon, your wife can work again and you have the plot as equity and can fully get started.
Nobody wants to hear this, but try saving 1,000€ monthly for 2 years.
If that works without problems, you can repay a 400k€ loan and then have about 50k equity.
Then your wife might work again, and then it sounds better.
So you prefer to live like in the USA with 3-4 credit cards fully loaded? The main thing is to have a house and a nice car.
The problem is that for such a tight budget the costs seem very low/not properly calculated:
1. 100k for the plot including development. What about additional costs like: property transfer tax, notary, authorities...?
2. 800 € other living costs. So clothes, internet, insurances, car, reserves. For three people it will more likely be 1,500 € - 1,800 €. We ourselves calculate with over 2,000 €.
3. Private health insurance as civil servant already considered? What about child/wife?
4. Housing. Is that warm or cold rent?
It’s not about whether the OP can afford the house. For me personally it’s mainly that with these vague details we can’t judge it at all.
New construction currently not feasible, but I agree with some that you have to get creative. You are young and a civil servant, so you can stretch it. ING, for example, offers 1% repayment, after that you can increase.
Also neglected is the factor that construction may only start in 1-2 years, you can also stretch such a plan into the 3rd year, then the baby is 3 and wife can work...
As of today, you can’t manage it, which is not a problem as this is a long-term thing and that is the problem with many, that’s why we have this renting mentality in Germany and everyone wonders why citizens in other countries have more wealth. There ownership is normal...
My suggestion to you. Finance the plot, try to work with a special repayment option and plan the construction in 2 years. Not everyone can have 5k net at least and then build.
If you change your mind, you can easily sell a plot in such an area...
4% interest and repayment combined.1) What do you mean by 4er annuity = 330 Euro per 100,000 loan?
The landlord pays for maintenance, the owner themselves. In addition, the ancillary costs for a house are always higher than for an apartment.5) If the rent for a later apartment costs 1,000 Euro, then I could just pay a rate of 1,100-1,200 EUR, right?
The bank will definitely apply higher flat rates.But your assessment could be correct, then I come to about 1,100 EUR
But you cannot spend that money today.When the child is a teenager, my wife will also be able to work full-time.
Good luck, you will need it.A rate of 1,200 Euro should not be a problem. Within the last year, I have saved an average of 1,500 Euro monthly.
2) I have been keeping a household budget for a long time. The 800 euros are the average of the last 7 months. The average of the last 12 months is 1,000 euros.
And as already mentioned, why pay someone else 1,000 euros rent if you can invest in your own home. A payment of 1,200 euros should not be a problem.
Within the last year I have saved on average 1,500 euros monthly.