House on the slope - approx. 200 sqm living space

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Müllerin

2017-11-01 13:58:05
  • #1
Please what? Nobody needs a children's room over 20sqm? What is that supposed to mean, if the space is there, why not? Ok, only really useful from toddler age, but that's fine. I would install a sauna with so much space and a second bathroom for the kids or at least a shower in one of the downstairs toilets. I also find the bathroom totally unnecessarily big - sure, a bit of space is nice, but so much empty space in the middle - what do you want to do with that? Besides, I prefer a separate dressing room, I hate it when clothes are lying around in the bedroom. But everyone has to decide for themselves how they want to use their space. But I would never install additional roof windows and in the bedroom paint over at least one of the two again. Summers are getting hotter, no one wants sun through the roof, it's warm enough underneath anyway.
 

11ant

2017-11-01 15:11:09
  • #2
Aha. Time will tell. Away from the square and suggestions largely implemented. Fine.
 

Kaspatoo

2017-11-01 19:34:30
  • #3
My impression:
Half of everything would still be good.
- Someone has to clean all of that (want to)
- On the ground floor, the storage room is almost as big as one of our kids' rooms,
- The guest WC has room for a whole sauna, just imagine sitting on the Locus, how lost you feel in the hall of the guest WC, except: you are a true mydealzer and are involved in every "TV for guest WC" and SNES Mini deal
- Cloakroom: it can be that big, you will definitely fill it well, but that also applies to one half its size, you just collect and don't sort out or put the winter jackets in the summer in the basement under the stairs (where a cloakroom would also fit)
- The size for the living/dining/kitchen area would be okay, I would hide the kitchen in an L-shape of the whole room to do something good for the acoustics
- I was happy about my big kids' room, but I think it was almost 20m² including the sloping ceiling, if the kids' rooms had 16-18m² of floor space that would also be very sufficient
- The size of the bedrooms results automatically if you reduce your ground floor area
- I also find the rooms very quirky with many corners
- impractical because you can't place anything properly and there will also be great difficulties during interior construction (painting, flooring, baseboards), to not waste any space, I would arrange the rooms in the four corners, align the stairs centrally and then see how the stairs fit on the ground floor and possibly rotate the rooms etc. there
- possibly give the stairwell a "gallery". Rather unused space, but better than puzzling it in everywhere else. Besides, the hallway becomes a bit more livable this way.
- I like the idea of a fixed staircase to the attic
- Consider a heating method for the attic, at least as preparation
- In the basement, I see two cellar rooms that seem poorly usable, a small but possibly sufficient utility/storage room (HAR) (ours is 2.5 x 1.2m and is 70% used up by the large heating system, fuse box, and connections but you can reach everywhere well)
- As in the attic, the room layout and walls seem unsuitable to me
- The almost alcove is furthest from the guest WC in the basement, rather an unfortunate distribution of rooms
- The hobby room is very large, do you already have an idea what you want to do there? It could become a second living room, so that not only a home trainer goes in there and the rest of the room is only for cleaning.
- If the house were smaller, the hobby room could also give up quite a bit of space
- On the exterior views, the windows with their different sizes and shapes look like Klitschko after his last fight, I would also pay attention to symmetry here
- I don't consider roof windows useful, for example we installed double-wing windows (1.5m - 2m wide with frame) so that a lot of sun comes in, sunlight is important to me

If you are not offended by me (I was quite blunt), I suggest the following:
- start drawing again from the beginning
- start with simple room layouts
- rooms should have four walls if possible (or more in L-shape, but no niches)
- design the rooms as small as possible!
- place stairs and entrances and shift rooms if necessary
- if something doesn't quite fit, enlarge the outer walls of the house a little, which will "accidentally" also enlarge some rooms
- if everything "fits" now but is maybe too small, you already have a good floor plan, you can now extend your outer walls further to enlarge all rooms
- set windows and think about symmetry from the outside

This is not a patent recipe for a "beautiful" house but prevents a mess.
If there are special design wishes for rooms or other things, they can be incorporated at any time.

Otherwise, if this is not your style: talk to several builders or architects, they also make offers and listen to your wishes beforehand. The offer then includes floor plan drawings. All this is free for you. And you get various ideas from the professionals.
You can lay the offers side by side and compare them with your ideas.
 

SupaCriz

2017-11-01 19:41:14
  • #4
Hello everyone,

Thank you for the opinions and comments. Could you give us a few more tips, for example regarding the arrangement of the windows?
Here are some background information on the other points and a possible furnishing of the ground floor:

- Storage on the ground floor: This refers to the utility room with storage space, plus additional room for drinks and non-perishable supplies. The washing machine and dryer will therefore be on the ground floor.

- Roof windows: The Velux roof balcony was prohibited by the city; according to them, all roof windows on the northwest side facing the street must be omitted due to ensemble protection. We have now reduced it to one double casement window each in the parents’ bedroom and bathroom.
Does anyone know if the city can prohibit double casement windows because of ensemble protection, when all 3 neighboring houses and also the demolition house on our property have 1-2 double casement windows facing the street? The city says that these were probably never approved and therefore "do not count."

- Children’s room: It should be noted that due to the low knee wall, a large part of the floor space will be under the slope. Overall, we find the rooms nicely sized but not too big.

- Children’s bathroom/second bathroom: At least the bathroom in the basement, possibly also on the ground floor, will have a shower. An additional children’s bathroom would be too much for me (father).

- Large living-cooking-dining area: With a kitchen island, window seating/dining table, and sofa area, we believe it is not too large. This is where a large part of family life takes place.

- Utility room (HAR): What size would you consider appropriate here? At a minimum, it must accommodate the heat pump with hot water storage, water and electricity connections – probably also a power storage system and photovoltaic installation.

- Construction method/construction costs: We are building with 36.5 cm Ytong. According to the planning company, the construction costs should work out that way; we are curious to see if it will be so.
 

Kaspatoo

2017-11-01 19:43:55
  • #5
small on-top: when you get older and the children have left the house, the house is too big for many. It is wise for whoever built their basement (on a slope) to do it in such a way that they could make a separate rental apartment out of it (i.e., equip it with its own electricity, water, and possibly heating circuit).
 

ypg

2017-11-01 20:13:48
  • #6
Why do you all want to cram technology into the utility room when you have basement rooms downstairs?
Anyway: I have two/three tips...
1. straighten the hallway upstairs. Straight walls so that proper doors fit into the walls. Currently, 76 cm doors are drawn in the children's rooms. Those are secondary room dimensions, way too narrow! And the hallway could use some square meters so that four people don’t have to squeeze in there.
2. Regarding other dimensions: quite a few things don’t fit. Toilet and shower are at minimal size, but rooms that are only uncomfortable in size.
In contrast, the guest room, at 2.77 m for a bed, is cramped again (not comfortable at all, as you think).
I really don’t want to be mean to you, but could it be that you have problems with sizes, proportions, and design (windows)?
That wouldn’t be bad either. But then to go crazy or experiment on a 200 sqm house? You’re not doing yourselves any favors with that. My opinion.
 

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