Garden landscaper offer ok or rather totally exaggerated?

Why not use a landscape architect who plans everything and then coordinates the construction with the individual trades?

That is one option, or rather - would have been an option. Someone like that should have been involved at the beginning of the preliminary planning. My mistake was that at first I relied on the statements of two landscape gardeners who said: "Why are you already bringing this up now? Once the shell is up and the roof is on, you can slowly start making inquiries." The one who made the offer later told me that the involvement was quite late. Unfortunately, I only came across him later through my new neighbor. He also had everything done by them and they also take care of the maintenance. Every other week, a truck from the landscape gardener is parked in front of the door. However, he was still able to save many things, such as appropriate electrical preparation leading out into the garden, coordination for the provision of water outside, etc.

In terms of cost, I believe involving such an architect would probably be on a different level than the general contractor all-inclusive package. He is also billed according to HOAI. I will inquire about this out of interest. If I then see that, in the end, it is indeed likely to be more expensive, then there is no need for great comparisons with the current provider. Because I am very confident that he will implement it very well.

This is one option or rather - would have been one option. Someone like that should have been involved at the beginning of the basic planning. My mistake was that I initially relied on the statement of two landscape gardeners who said: "Why are you already bringing this up? When the shell is standing and the roof is on, you can slowly start asking." The person who made the offer told me later that the involvement happened quite late. Unfortunately, I only discovered him later through my new neighbor. He also had everything done by him and also gets the maintenance done by them. Every other week, a vehicle from the landscape gardener is parked in front of his door. Still, he was able to save a lot, like corresponding electrical preparation going out into the garden, coordination for the provision of water outside, etc.

In terms of costs, involving such an architect would probably be on a whole different level compared to the turnkey package. He is also billed according to HOAI. I will inquire out of interest. If I then see that in the end it will likely be even more expensive, then there is no need for big comparisons with the current provider. Because I am very confident that he will execute it very well.

At that price, you should have someone coordinate it. It’s no longer about the money but about botching.

Better to have it done / coordinated.

Or do those 10k for an architect hurt?

or do the 10k hurt for an architect?

How do you come to 10,000 €? Take a look at what a complete architectural supervision according to HOAI costs if you assume 200-250k. You are looking at a multiple of € 10,000. That is what it will come down to if the architect plans everything with the pool etc. from the very beginning. I will now pick up the phone regarding this.

When I read the electrical wiring, it sounds like more.

At that point, I really lost faith. To me, it sounds like the sentence beginning "before we ..." in cookbooks

A stress level has been reached that is contrary to the meaning of "paying and having it done." And I worry that with these negative emotions preloading, the finished house will eventually be seen - and relaxation will never set in.

And here I mean, reconciliation (with four ö, as pronounced by Johannes Rau) can only be achieved through one’s own actions.

Every other week a vehicle from the garden landscaper stands in front of the door.

A completely normal Ducato, Crafter, or Sprinter, I assume - no Cayenne

We stayed with our landscaper. 10-15% less with other providers wasn't worth the hassle of taking everything apart. In the end, we received a 3% discount plus better conditions on the paving and are accepting it as is. The main thing is that they do a good job, which I assume they will!

Good luck

When does he start