Garden landscaper offer ok or rather totally exaggerated?

Nobody likes negotiating prices these days.

On the other hand, companies can be glad – no customer makes it so easy for them to receive a virtually finished specification where they only have to enter their reference values. No hours-long discussions with the customer and and and....... half an hour of work and you’ve positioned yourself. I’m experiencing this right now while buying furniture. The desired Hülsta cabinets are being requested from four different companies, and the salespeople are partly grateful to receive it neatly prepared along with the parts list. Then you also save the hassle of "I have to call the department head," because they clarify it directly in-house and provide feedback on what is feasible. At the same time, you can convey that they have little work but must offer a top price to win the contract.

Definitely, especially since it doesn't have to turn into price dumping. The customer wants to know where they stand; it's not about squeezing out the last percentage point. Performance can cost more, also a better gut feeling, but there is a limit somewhere.

It is never about percentage points anyway - even if the furniture retailers with their marketing would like you to believe that. I think it is always about plain euro amounts for clearly qualified services.

Especially with Hülsta, you can go by percentages because the RRP is listed in the catalogs. 20% off the list price is always possible, more would be great.


I have nothing to say except "yes, it is so." Feel free to Google it.

With Hülsta, you can go by percentages because the RRP is listed in the catalogs. You always get 20% off the list price, more would be great.

We have two furniture stores in the region that offer 35% and 40% off Hülsta respectively. But even from these prices, I have now come down almost 5% (with a dealer who doesn’t even advertise a discount promotion).

Now I will go to our dealer with this price, who has been the most committed to the planning, and he will have the chance to make the sale if his boss agrees.

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I have nothing to say except "yes, it is so". Feel free to Google it.

I have nothing to say except "yes, it is so". Feel free to Google it.

I am not a fan of legal advice via Google at all, because unfortunately, as much nonsense is told there as when you ask laypeople for legal advice.

It always depends on the individual case, but the specification sheet submitted by the creator has no creative content in the sense of case law. The Federal Court of Justice (BGH) decided this with a judgment of 29.03.1984, I ZR 32/82, especially para. 26, regarding tender documents for a pipeline and specifically a specification sheet for the invitation to tender for engineering and pipeline work, which contained execution conditions for the acceptance and storage of pipes, accessories, protection of pipeline insulation, equipment for welding work, origin of materials and building materials, documents to be prepared by the contractor concerning the work process,... Much more detailed than what is present here. According to the BGH, it lacked creative content, so the documents could be further used.

This was also recently addressed again by the Regional Court of Cologne (LG Köln) with a judgment of 18.12.2014, file no. 14 O 193/14, regarding a performance description in a procurement procedure.

I do not want to write a legal treatise here now; after all, the architect is always right. Being cautious is certainly not wrong and does no harm, but simply accusing others of copyright infringements across the board is also not productive.