Garden landscaper offer ok or rather totally exaggerated?

The robber's statement stands. Period. There may be many people here who find it "wrong" to have the garden completely done. But one should accept that the robber has a different attitude and either give him meaningful support (with regard to letting it be done!) or let the topic rest. No one here will get him to do it himself and I have the greatest understanding for him, but at the moment not necessarily for those who want to persuade him to garden (from someone who will later pull weeds if the weather and the cold allow).

The statement from the robber stands. Period.

No matter how many people here find it "wrong" to have the garden completely done. One should simply accept that the robber has a different attitude and either give him meaningful assistance (with regard to letting it be done!) or let the topic rest.

No one here will get him to do it himself, and I have the greatest understanding for him at the moment, but not necessarily for those who want to persuade him to garden (from someone who will pull weeds later, if the weather and the cold allow it)

No one said otherwise either. What doesn’t fit, however, is that on the one hand, you want to let him do it, but on the other hand, he is too stingy and/or does not accept that a landscaping gardener can do everything.

When is the robber supposed to serve that?

Above all how? I just spent almost an hour and a half managing to install the two purchased dehumidifiers for the basement. With things like that, I always feel like a wooden blockhead – it’s just the way it is. I always say nicely, at home I can still hammer a nail into the wall (I’ve even gone into the electrical system of my rented apartment because I wasn’t sensitized to it – since then I always request appropriate plans beforehand for such things). But where it starts with hammer drills and such, professionals basically come in. Maybe it’s also because it was no different in my parents’ house and I never even came close to anything handicraft-related. And I was never interested in dealing with it more closely. My credo is rather to keep strengthening strengths and inclinations; compensate weaknesses through suitable measures instead of breaking my back over it.

No one here will persuade him to do it himself and I have the greatest understanding for him, but at the moment not necessarily for those who want to urge him to garden (from someone who later pulls weeds, if the weather and the cold allow it)

Once the garden is established, my wife and I might perhaps also enjoy one activity or another. Surely, we will also pull weeds or do similar things sometimes. We have to just let it all come as it may.

What doesn’t fit then is you want to have it done on the one hand, but on the other hand he is too stingy and/or doesn’t accept that a landscape gardener can do everything

That is simply not true! It goes without saying that a landscape gardener must and will do everything for us! Many users here frowned when I mentioned the high costs for garden construction for our project. There were also various voices questioning the amount and basically calling me crazy for (incorrectly assumed!) not obtaining multiple comparative offers within that price range.

No, we are not stingy! We just want to see if the price is reasonable. And comparing is not nearly as easy here as ordering the next TV on the internet. Not only the prices are important but also the quality of the provider, so the price-performance ratio and not the absolute price.

You can accuse me of many things but not of being stingy. I never complained in the house-building thread when something turned out more expensive than initially estimated. I only questioned it and then decided for myself. I am not the type who buys a Ferrari and then complains about fuel consumption, if that’s what you mean.

But the fact that there are providers who don’t just charge good money for good work but simply offer overpriced and excessive prices, that is just a fact. And finding out about that in our specific case was solely what it was about for me – and not whining about how expensive the evil gardeners are. Even if the mess ends up costing €200,000 in the end, then I just have to save up for it but then accept it, not complain, but after sufficient examination not feel ripped off either, as that is now a realistic and fair price.

It is also not about finding an equivalent gardener who does it €2,329.42 cheaper but only about checking for gross disproportion in the price/performance ratio.

Take it slow. Maybe your hesitation towards the hammer drill will slowly disappear. The how is often a problem if you haven't learned it from your father.

Above all how? I just spent almost an hour and a half getting the assembly of the two purchased dehumidifiers for the basement done. With things like this, I always feel like a wooden dummy - it’s just the way it is. I always say it nicely, at home I can still hammer a nail into the wall (I even went into the wiring of the rental apartment, as I wasn’t sensitized to it - since then I always request appropriate plans beforehand for things like that). But where it starts with hammer drills, etc., there are always craftsmen involved. Maybe it’s also because it was no different in my parents’ house and I never even remotely came into contact with anything craft-related. And there was never any interest in getting more involved with it. My credo is rather to strengthen strengths and inclinations; compensate for weaknesses through suitable measures instead of breaking your back over them.

Once the garden is established, my wife and I might actually enjoy one or the other activity. Surely we will also pull weeds or similar. We just have to let it all come to us.

That’s just not true! It is out of the question that a garden landscaper has to and will do all of that for us! There were many users here who frowned when I mentioned the high costs for landscaping our project. There were also various voices questioning the amount of the costs and practically calling me crazy for not obtaining comparison quotes in that price range (which was assumed incorrectly!).

No, we are not too stingy! We just want to check if the price is reasonable. And comparing here isn’t as easy as ordering the next TV on the internet. Not only the prices are important but also the quality of the provider, i.e., the price/performance ratio and not the absolute price.

You can accuse me of many things but not of being stingy. I also never complained in the house-building thread when something was more expensive than initially estimated. I at most questioned it and then decided for myself. I am not the type who buys a Ferrari and then complains about the fuel consumption, if that’s what you mean.

But the fact that there are providers who not only take good money for good work but who simply offer overpriced and excessive rates is simply a fact. And exploring that for our specific case was solely what mattered to me—and not whining about how expensive the evil gardeners are. Even if the mess ends up costing €200,000, then I just have to save up but then I accept it, don’t whine, but after sufficient review don’t have the feeling of having been ripped off, since that is just a realistic and fair price.

It is also not about finding an equivalent gardener who does it €2,329.42 cheaper but only about checking for gross discrepancies in the price/performance ratio.

Don’t know. Just strange that they fiddle around with the cheapest item (gravel).

That was the uncertainty because someone has to say something.