Garden landscaper offer ok or rather totally exaggerated?

  • Erstellt am 2018-09-15 17:40:16

R.Hotzenplotz

2018-09-22 14:08:33
  • #1
An alternative garden landscaper told me he doesn't understand why I was offered natural stone gravel 0/32 instead of RCL gravel, which is supposedly much cheaper. The garden landscaper with the offer said the high price only results from having to wheel everything around the house with a wheelbarrow and not because of the material price. No idea what to make of that. Are there perhaps local/regional restrictions with RCL gravel?
 

matte

2018-09-22 15:54:12
  • #2
And why does it have to be done with a wheelbarrow? Is there no space for the excavator to get from the street to the garden?
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2018-09-22 16:03:13
  • #3


I don’t get it either. I am desperately looking for alternatives. However, everyone has something to complain about. One can’t manage the irrigation system, another says he has nothing to do with lighting planning and not with the execution either, another says he can’t get the ground lights into the front laid slabs or connect them. And many simply have no time. So it’s definitely been 10 companies that I have contacted.

If necessary, I’ll just put the topic on hold. You can also first enter the house over Euro pallets and park the car on the street. Rushing doesn’t help here and time pressure is rarely a good companion.

Maybe you have to think differently again. If no company is commissioned to do everything, you might alternatively need a construction manager who oversees the whole thing and, if you like, handles it together with different companies. However, I doubt whether this will be cheaper. So far I have only come across architects but not so much construction managers in this field. Difficult.

A line for the future pool is also supposed to be prepared and and and...... everything has to be thought through and executed cleanly. Everywhere where something is paved or laid now, you can no longer access it later without destruction for lines.
 

11ant

2018-09-22 19:43:45
  • #4
Hello first of all. I am no stranger here, but in garden threads usually not even as a silent reader. Here and today now once at the invitation of the OP, to whose home threads I have already contributed some jars of mustard.

So I just read the whole thread quickly and – to “get it out of my head” – will first briefly comment on a few passages:


I wouldn’t just close ranks, but bring in the Irish, the Frisians and the Vikings as well. First, someone who asks for the price (without Schmalhans being master of the kitchen) has not understood the value. Why should you even serve and supply someone who does not appreciate it? Prices are given after the consultation – if you get the feeling the customer fits. Second, you don’t want the customers you like to serve to pay for the price comparison sporters. Qualified offers are not a walk in the park.


Do I understand correctly: the most diligent one gets the “chance” to deliver at the price of the cheapest? – Hopefully he won’t even be grateful for that, because what does he get out of it?


Am I already demented? – I am a reader and respondent of your home threads “from the very beginning” and I don’t remember any pool at all. Not as a picture, not as text, and not from the supply or disposal planning. Where does that come from now?
In any case, it should have long been part of the overall project.


Typical chatter from people a few years before the health warning shot. After the still ongoing aria of shell construction turbulences simply incomprehensible.

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But now to the topic in toto:

My dear robber, I think your throttle cable is really jammed.

When I read about your back garage door a few months ago and the mini excavator, I thought: the guy is reasonable, he just wants to play for a bit. Which is important. If I remember correctly, you are an entrepreneur in your late thirties. Probably successful as well, which is not entirely risk-free. With the “comorbidity” of house building troubles I urgently see it as necessary that your hands dig in your own garden on the weekends. Otherwise, burnout will come around mid-forties. This alarm clock is already set, but you can still stop it.

So, basically: you don’t create a garden with money, but with your hands. Look – that’s how you do it.

What good is the gate for the mini excavator if behind it is paved? – I wouldn’t want to drive over that with a tracked vehicle, at most with a little wheeled loader.

Somewhere here I also read the keyword “lawn mower robot.” No, that’s not going at all.

Pregnancy, delivery time, no matter what you call it: the making and the growing belong to the result “with hand and foot.” Have the driveway paved – that is the stone laying. But help with the compaction yourself, then you come home over your driveway. Having paid does not bring fulfillment.

And first, it doesn’t make you satisfied and second, it doesn’t relax you to watch the lawn mower robot. At best it gives you cramps in your coronary vessels: is it really doing everything right? – why is it blinking? – did it just beep? – no, a neat seam looks different, next time I’ll buy the bigger one – does the thing still have a warranty?

For some weeks I thought about divorce when the house was finished. Then about the loony bin. Currently I see you more in the ICU. Go ahead and google the next stroke unit.

Look at Daniel: he seeded the lawn himself. Then came lots of rain, the garden was flooded like a rice field. He thought it would all wash away and he would have to do it again. And then something took hold. He sees what he has already finished. And he has goals – some of which will accompany him into the next year.

It doesn’t matter if your manual skills can’t keep up. Then a detail becomes a bit crooked here and another a bit bumpy there. Screw it. If it really bothers you looking from the deck chair at your work, then it also itches to improve it. Then you dig up a small patch again and do it better. Or you simply decide to start again at one end when you have finished at the other. May makes everything new, why not every seven years?

Garden design and maintenance with a cheque book is really something for wimps (or those who want to become such). For “the realization” it is never too late.
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2018-09-22 19:57:51
  • #5


The idea came from the landscaper. I never thought something like that could be realized at manageable costs. At first, he said we could get the complete outdoor facilities with pool for €120,000. This vision now seems far away, considering the offer. If the originally planned idea were not so far from the now offered reality, a comparison wouldn’t be an issue.



No, it was always only meant for commercial providers. I have no fun or knack for handicraft things – therefore no interest either. The goal was always to have the garden laid out by someone else and to find a part-time worker for maintenance. I look for sports balancing by jogging. Otherwise, I use the few hours of free time I have during the week for time with my family – I don’t see my daughter grow up that much anyway, as I work six, sometimes seven days a week….. and you look for something as a counterbalance that you enjoy. I commission other things to people who have made the hobby their profession and are good at it. One may like that….. or not…. but that’s how it is, that’s how I see it, and so does my wife.

By the way, what I’m passionate about is my work. That’s why I see little risk of burnout, because it’s just fun, and I gladly put in the time for it, not out of economic or operational pressure.

I already looked at Daniel earlier. I think he’s really into the whole thing. But besides skill and leisure, a lot of time investment is required.
 

Snowy36

2018-09-22 20:45:54
  • #6
I also advise you to move in first, we can see it ourselves right now: you currently don't have the strength for the garden, it will only be a mess.
 

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