By the way, our two garden landscapers didn’t take any money for the plan, but they also didn’t draw it very nicely, just by hand, which works too.
But there still has to be a proper execution plan made. What’s the point of garden landscape architects if a scribbled drawing has the same effect? Are you sure the result is equivalent?
If you paid for the plan, have them give it to you and ask another company that only executes, because even if you don’t want them to do it afterwards, at least you have a comparison price.
That’s actually what my intention was from the beginning of this thread. I don’t know why, but there must have been a real misunderstanding about that. There is a plan that we like, and we want it implemented as is or with max. minor changes. Under no circumstances do we want to start from scratch and bring someone on board who wants to get creatively involved again. To do that we already had two companies at the beginning and picked one of them. The thread’s purpose was also never to find components in the offer that could alternatively be executed cheaper with quality downgrades. Of course, there are always cheaper variants, like the drainage channel mentioned… or small paving stones instead of expensive 1x1m concrete slabs…
No; our concern has always been and still is solely whether the service package as it stands is worth the price. And it’s worth the price if no one else offers the same quality cheaper. How else could you determine worthiness of price?
Therefore, the goal from the start was simply to get comparison offers from other companies for the existing plan and offer. And we proceeded as written from the start – blacking out prices, calling companies first, explaining the situation, and then sending documents…
Many work only like that or by recommendation. Without recommendation, you often don’t get any craftsmen anymore.
That’s where I see the main problem, not that I’m acting as if I’m putting on pants with pliers. The companies mostly have enough interested parties who call, they come out, offer something, and immediately get the order. When they hear comparison offers and that they’re in competition, the commitment is probably just lower… I can understand that; that’s why I hoped someone here could at least roughly estimate the prices for the offered services (of course, I am aware there are regional differences).
The robber has non-08/15 wishes, then you have to pay for that.
That’s not supposed to be the main problem either. The willingness to pay a lot for good quality and, on the other hand, blindly throwing money out the window are two different things.
If he can spend 130k on the garden then he can spend 130k on the garden. Period. I just think that’s way too expensive for what’s offered. Not even a pool or lighting concept. At that price I expect something different than the boring usual stuff.
Exactly, that hits the nail on the head. That’s how I see it too. And that’s why I started this thread here. So if it turns out that the wishes can only be realized with €250,000 (then over the years), then that’s how it is and I can’t change it.
Maybe you should just say goodbye to that company. Is there really no other?
At the end of the week, I contacted two others who received the documents. We’ll see what comes out of that. As I said, it can’t be the way to throw away a plan that makes sense to us now and start from nothing again. No! The task is that what is planned and for which the planning was also paid for, is implemented at a fair price/performance ratio.
But it is also true that a purely executing company will tell me, dear client, please provide an execution plan. That would mean in this case you might also have to bring a garden landscape architect on board who makes the execution plan or commission the previous provider for it. I’m curious whether these additional costs contained in the offer will reappear in an alternative offer. The HOAI provides insight into what such things cost. The execution plan accounts for 25% of the total planning costs according to HOAI.