Floor plan opinions single-family house 140 sqm 2 full floors

I spent my evening drawing.

Don’t stone me. But I tried to improve the current floor plan. I will draw the others tomorrow and then see which one I prefer.

So, about the floor plan I drew.

What did I do? I switched the kitchen and living room.
The staircase stays the same, attached. The floor plan upstairs also remains the same. Therefore, only the image of the ground floor is shown. You could also place the staircase on the other side here, then the upstairs would look like in picture 3. In this floor plan, basically only the kitchen and living room were swapped. There is a huge wardrobe, shower/toilet, and a nice kitchen with space for the dining table. The living room is a bit narrow and the hallway is just slim. Otherwise, the utility room is bigger and has a niche for the washing machine.



Now to floor plan 2. Staircase to the left. Living room and kitchen have the same layout. Toilet is behind the living room on the left. For this, a pantry with access between kitchen and utility room is created upstairs. A small wardrobe is also there.
The downside is still the narrow hallway and the living room a bit narrow.



However, the upper floor is completely relieved and gave me an open kitchen as well as an office. Almost square children’s room, a bedroom where even direct access to the bathroom would be possible. But I didn’t do that. The bathroom is airier. I really like the upstairs.



I’m curious about opinions. I will also draw the other floor plans tomorrow so I can get a good overall impression.

favored heating technology: air heat pump and central ventilation system

Doesn't seem to fit the topic at first, but then it does: air-water heat pump or air-air heat pump?

If air-water HP: split device or pure indoor unit?

They require different amounts of space, so this is important for sizing the technical room. Speaking of:

If you have to do without, which details/extensions
-can you do without: if push comes to shove, then one could do without the separate door to the utility room or the pantry,

Why is the design the way it is now? e.g.
Build as small as possible, as large as necessary. The plot gets wider towards the back

The smaller the house is supposed to be, the more the question arises how the following areas are distributed:
Parking spaces (furniture)
Wall areas (for things that have to be on the wall)
Circulation areas (where you move inside the house)
Usable areas (as long as you don't move on furniture)

If you want to build as small as possible, you should therefore look at how to optimize all these areas together.
They sometimes compete with each other.
A separate door in the utility room means more circulation area, which means less parking and wall space. It's a trade-off.

In the second design, in my impression, the kitchen really suffered because of the pantry since parking and wall space were sacrificed for circulation space.

The smaller the house is supposed to be, the more compromises have to be found as well. It's important to find compromises that you yourself feel comfortable with and that work in everyday life.

(Not that I would consider 140 m² small. 140 m² is a nice size.)

I had written it already, the builder must then carry out the inspection. But at 7.5 everything must fit. Floor plans in model houses are of similar size anyway.

And they are often a big trap because they are often designed too small.

Depending on the heating technology, it can already be really tight. A lot has to fit into the room. Especially if photovoltaics are to be added.

Maybe as an idea, also to review everything again based on this:
The house should be a fusion of two different aspects:
1. What does the plot dictate? What conditions does the plot have? (From this arise aspects such as basement/no basement, partly window areas due to view, light, and so on, front door positioning, and partly also external dimensions depending on the plot.)
These questions already dictate a lot, and I would not underestimate them.
2. What needs does the family have for the interior? What does the family want themselves? What is important to them? What is less important to them?
Then, based on the plot specifications and the needs, you can try to achieve the best possible fusion from the viewpoint "how well does it work in everyday life?"

Regarding the last drafts, unsorted thoughts:
- The pantry seems like a millstone around the neck in all designs to me (because: conflict between parking and circulation areas). I would really think about whether the staircase could be rethought here, e.g., with storage space under the stairs.
- The last two ground floor plans, as the sofa is drawn, do not really allow for a good TV position (TV in front of window? Alternatively, turn around the sofa if there is no floor-to-ceiling window. But then glare on the TV. 3m distance is possible but could feel cramped.)
- Personally, the passage next to the stairs would be too narrow for me. In the hallway, two people, one carrying groceries, should be able to pass each other. Here you would have a sort of "construction site traffic light." You can easily arrange to that. You just have to be aware of it beforehand.
- Ground floor redraw 1: Unless required by the facade view or a north wall, I would not make such a large window in the cloakroom (the larger the window, the more it has to be shaded).
- I read between the lines that the long staircase is desired. If I had to keep it: I don't like the missing light axes in the hallway area (besides the narrowness, but compromises have to be made somewhere). However, they could be incorporated: light element next to the entrance door. Door to the living area with glass elements. Consider internal windows between living area/hallway and hallway/utility room as well as a corresponding window in the utility room. (But please pay attention to the wall and parking areas here! I don't think it will work out. But I would at least check it.)
- Personally, with these house dimensions, I would put a half-turn staircase on the outer wall and the pantry underneath. Then a nice window in the staircase area to bring light into the house from there (currently on the new drawings, there is no window on the right side of the ground floor). This change would really ease things here. (Personally, an open and/or long staircase is not important to me, see above needs.)

The smaller the house is supposed to become, [...] (Not that I would consider 140m² small. 140m² is a nice size.)

One that comfortably allows for a third child or a fully functional home office.

And these are often a big trap, as they are often designed too small.

Typenhaus-HAR are usually about 9 sqm in size.

Personally, I would put a half-turned staircase on the outside wall with the pantry underneath, given the house dimensions.

By the staircase you probably mean a two-flight straight one with a turn instead of a landing (?)

I spent my evening drawing.

Don’t stone me. But I tried to improve the current floor plan. I will draw the others tomorrow to see which one appeals to me more.

So about the floor plan I drew.

What did I do? I swapped the kitchen and living room. The staircase stays the same, attached. The upper floor plan also remains the same. Therefore, only the picture of the ground floor. The staircase could also be placed on the other side here, then the upper floor would also be like in picture 3. In this floor plan, basically only the kitchen and living room have been swapped. There is a huge wardrobe, shower/WC, and a nice kitchen with space for the dining table. The living room is a bit narrow and the hallway is simply slim. Otherwise, the utility room is bigger and has a niche for the washing machine.



Now to floor plan 2. Staircase to the left. Living room and kitchen have the same layout. WC is located to the left behind the living room. In exchange, a pantry with passage to the kitchen and utility room is created upstairs. A small wardrobe is also there. The downside is still the narrow hallway and the somewhat narrow living room.



However, the upper floor has been completely relieved and gave me a kitchen work area as well as an office. Almost square children’s rooms, a bedroom where even direct access to the bathroom would be possible. But I didn’t do that. The bathroom is airier. I really like the upper floor.



I’m curious about opinions. I will also draw the other floor plans tomorrow so I can get a good overall impression.

I was at the kitchen planning this morning.

First of all, it relieved me. Even in the original floor plan, a kitchen of sufficient size is possible. Everyone has different preferences, but the kitchen is bigger than in some restaurants (exaggerated).

Nevertheless, he gave a few improvements, like I presented in my floor plan, that would make the kitchen even better.

We have now removed the wall and just set a fridge on the side. That makes the kitchen width only 2.60 m and the hallway corridor is basically shared. So 28 cm gained plus corridor.

It would even be conceivable to line the staircase at the bottom with drawers. Then you could skip the pantry, although I already find a use for the storage space, and if not, then the wall in the pantry will be removed and the wardrobe enlarged. So super flexible. For now the staircase remains open so that the corridor feels wider.

The narrower kitchen has allowed me to move the staircase 20 cm more towards the middle and thus relieve the utility room or the bathroom on the upper floor. The utility room still has two doors and I will have it precisely planned by the builder. Guest WC will be only a WC.

By shifting the staircase, the bathroom has become more functional. I swapped the children’s room and parents’ room and completely removed the corridor. The bathroom now goes through to the back. Cleverly planned, a passage from the bedroom could be made. (I will commission that). A small office has also emerged.

The children’s rooms, especially one, are a bit oddly shaped. I could extend the line. Then both rooms would be 13.6 m2 and I would get a storage room at the end of the corridor. So now both children’s rooms have about 14 sqm.

As I said, I was out all day and first played through the original floor plan since we liked it. Attached are the pictures.

No, actually not, if you leave out the standard - kitchen, WC, living room, stairs - in the single-family house. The difference in the standard single-family house sector is always in the details. Here you can see a dressing room, an air space, and a 4th room, which bloats a house. You don’t want that at all. Also, there is a different orientation of the plot.

Here you have a completely different winding, which requires more space upstairs.

By the way, internal links are allowed here.

You have the two tubes in your initial draft on page 1, if I may remind you.

I posted two drafts on page 5 or 6.
In addition, all the rough floor plans of the following gable roof houses are suitable for you; if you then increase the knee wall accordingly, you come to roughly 140 sqm.

- almost all smaller Viebrockhaus Maxime and V- houses,
- From Scanhaus Marlow almost all variants of the SH 122 slightly enlarged,
- The SH 116 about one meter wider,
- The SH 142 D
(In the SH 145 knee wall you have the same bad situation as in your draft, that two narrow areas result)

- Weberhaus with its Sunshine series
- Town & Country with the Landhaus 142 as well as the smaller ones (noted then with a higher knee wall)
Heinz von Heiden have declined in their series, I won’t mention them.
- And many others.

Basically, any standard floor plan fits you if you adjust the house dimensions accordingly. And you can also easily stay around +-140 sqm.
The problem is, if you squeeze a pantry into the rearmost corner so that the kitchen is no longer furnishable and therefore does not work. Or attach it to a secondary entrance. But that has all already been mentioned.

So today I dealt with the other floor plan. Either I have a mistake or it simply cannot be represented already with the rough calculation using the other data.

so today I dealt with the other floor plan. Either I have a mistake or it simply cannot be represented already with the rough calculation using the other data.

What is your drawing supposed to tell us: You want to use a building proposal with the original size 9.88 x 7.78 as inspiration, but implement it in the size 10.49 x 8.61? And again you start with the ground floor? (I just don't follow the first, the second sounds like a negative learning curve)