Wastl
2014-01-12 06:49:41
- #1
The chimneys are not properly aligned. You need to take another look at that. If you are heating with gas, you will also need a chimney there. It is questionable whether you will get approval for 2 chimneys on one house.
City villa floor plan / Feedback on static analysis, arrangement
- Erstellt am 2014-01-11 16:07:56
NZiege
2014-01-13 21:23:36
- #2
So, we have been busy again.
EG:
OG 1:
OG 2:
We have designed two variants for the upper floor. We like 1 better. The small room in the hallway is intended to be a storage closet for the vacuum cleaner and watering can.
On the ground floor, we moved the fireplace from the center of the room to the corner. It is still visible from every side of the room, but the chimney no longer interferes on the upper floor.
Additionally, we pushed the utility room out of the main living area. This way, it is no longer a narrow corridor but is well usable.
We find the hallway by the stairs quite comfortable in size. A coat rack fits in and there is some space to receive more than two guests and hang up jackets.
We are still looking for ways to better use the office.
I don’t quite understand the thing with the flues. According to that, the fireplace would have to be next to the heating, which hardly anyone has, right? I only know it to be separated here in our area. And 80% of the houses here also have two chimneys.
EG:
OG 1:
OG 2:
We have designed two variants for the upper floor. We like 1 better. The small room in the hallway is intended to be a storage closet for the vacuum cleaner and watering can.
On the ground floor, we moved the fireplace from the center of the room to the corner. It is still visible from every side of the room, but the chimney no longer interferes on the upper floor.
Additionally, we pushed the utility room out of the main living area. This way, it is no longer a narrow corridor but is well usable.
We find the hallway by the stairs quite comfortable in size. A coat rack fits in and there is some space to receive more than two guests and hang up jackets.
We are still looking for ways to better use the office.
I don’t quite understand the thing with the flues. According to that, the fireplace would have to be next to the heating, which hardly anyone has, right? I only know it to be separated here in our area. And 80% of the houses here also have two chimneys.
ypg
2014-01-13 22:57:06
- #3
Living room looks tidier, yet the TV corner still seems way too cramped. Most doors open the wrong way. Upper floors are out of the question. Almost only trapped rooms and complete chaos. No words.
How much have you budgeted for your house???
How much have you budgeted for your house???
ypg
2014-01-13 23:02:06
- #4
The part about "through the bedroom" must be true, of course. But I think you should be able to manage the two meters without waking anyone up.
With the light on or with the light off?
Wanderdüne
2014-01-14 09:09:02
- #5
I actually don't find it so bad if builders also create a drawing to get an idea of their future home. That can help to explore their own wishes.
BUT: It requires approaching the matter with extreme self-criticism, and it must also be clear that this cannot be the basis for a professional design.
It must also be clear how to proceed. If you go to an architect, you should not show them the self-made design, as their creativity will be limited; here only the list of requirements is important. If you go to a [GÜ, BU or ...] and show the self-made design, it may be that you will be praised to the skies even for the worst nonsense, and the house will be built, quick earned money.
Therefore, first a question: How should it continue afterwards? At the moment, the design is still far from the quality of a loveless catalog floor plan that does not consider the builders' wishes and conditions.
Regards WD
BUT: It requires approaching the matter with extreme self-criticism, and it must also be clear that this cannot be the basis for a professional design.
It must also be clear how to proceed. If you go to an architect, you should not show them the self-made design, as their creativity will be limited; here only the list of requirements is important. If you go to a [GÜ, BU or ...] and show the self-made design, it may be that you will be praised to the skies even for the worst nonsense, and the house will be built, quick earned money.
Therefore, first a question: How should it continue afterwards? At the moment, the design is still far from the quality of a loveless catalog floor plan that does not consider the builders' wishes and conditions.
Regards WD
NZiege
2014-01-14 14:13:19
- #6
Thank you again.
So we are having our house designed by an architect. He has already created a first draft. For this, we only had to specify which rooms and which size distributions we wanted. The draft was then the embodiment of "square, practical, good," and the room sizes did not correspond to our wishes either. (see attachment) Tomorrow morning we have the second appointment with the architect. Our ideas about what needs to be changed will be discussed then.
The drawing we created here simply represents the combination of all our clearly defined goals. Some corners are perfectly designed according to our wishes, others were just "fitted / adjusted," like the office/living room corner, which is not optimal. And it is precisely these problems where we hope for the help of the architect.
We thought about bringing our floor plan to this meeting and clarifying our wishes based on specific sections. For example, the projections in the dining and living area. Or the arrangement of the kitchen. The design of the upper floor, on the other hand, is comparatively unimportant to us. Preferably, of course, nice and practical, at the same time without wasting space, with straight walls and ideally well-shaped rooms. But we just can't manage that. Here we again hope for the architect’s assistance. We had not yet considered in which direction the doors would open. For now, only that a door fits into the wall. More detailed work would certainly be needed here. We have budgeted 300,000 EUR. The land is already owned. We live in the countryside. We have not taken into account any personal contributions or help from friends.
We do not have children yet.
We specified the following to the architect:
Living room, dining room, kitchen: approx. 55 sqm (of which kitchen approx. 11 sqm), open design, with fireplace facing both directions. Kitchen with cooking island or counter facing the room. Utility room connected to kitchen and garage.
Office: 12-15 sqm
WC: 2 sqm
Hallway: doesn't matter, as small as possible but with enough space for receiving guests
Child 1 and 2: approx. 15 sqm
Bedroom: 12-14 sqm
Bathroom: 14 sqm
Dressing room: approx. 10-12 sqm
Children’s bathroom: approx. 5 sqm
Including the hallway, we should stay under the 160 sqm limit. The utility room of the planned 15 sqm is on top of that. The architect’s first draft is thus not really close to this. And that was the trigger for us to draw ourselves.
In addition, we noted the following points of view (and much more for the interior design):
Construction type: Single-family house
Building style: two full floors, type “urban villa”
with projections / bay windows to loosen up the façade, straight dining and living area
Entrance area as a bay window over both stories
Roof type: Tent or hipped roof
Roof overhang 1m or more
Room height: 2.50 m
Basement: no
Attic: yes, as storage space, no planned conversion
Façade: Plaster (white, off-white, beige/brown) combined with possibly colored dark plaster, brick or element panels (large panels resembling natural stone etc.) on the projections
Garage: a double garage connected to the house (via utility room)
Terraces: yes, south-facing by living and dining rooms as well as kitchen
Balcony: no
Windows: floor-to-ceiling, large, facing the garden
Sliding doors to the garden
also horizontally oriented windows possible
possibly light bands over two floors towards garden and entrance
Blinds: if possible, yes
Stairs: in the entrance area / hallway
solid construction
Technology: LED lighting
Empty conduits throughout the house in sufficient quantity
Data cables -> later smart home
Sockets in window recesses
Interior style: open, bright, few doors
dominated by light colors, dark floors (wood look)
straight-lined
lots of glass
interior walls plastered
Ground floor:
Living, dining, kitchen, guest WC, hallway / stairs, office, utility room
Upper floor:
Bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, children’s room 1, children’s room 2, children’s bathroom, storage room
Do you think it is better to go into the meeting without our floor plan, even though we really already have detailed wishes for parts of the house? The floor plan is definitely not perfect and not the absolute wisdom. For every problem area we are open to solutions. We just wanted to outline the style, the type of construction, the rough layout with it.
So we are having our house designed by an architect. He has already created a first draft. For this, we only had to specify which rooms and which size distributions we wanted. The draft was then the embodiment of "square, practical, good," and the room sizes did not correspond to our wishes either. (see attachment) Tomorrow morning we have the second appointment with the architect. Our ideas about what needs to be changed will be discussed then.
The drawing we created here simply represents the combination of all our clearly defined goals. Some corners are perfectly designed according to our wishes, others were just "fitted / adjusted," like the office/living room corner, which is not optimal. And it is precisely these problems where we hope for the help of the architect.
We thought about bringing our floor plan to this meeting and clarifying our wishes based on specific sections. For example, the projections in the dining and living area. Or the arrangement of the kitchen. The design of the upper floor, on the other hand, is comparatively unimportant to us. Preferably, of course, nice and practical, at the same time without wasting space, with straight walls and ideally well-shaped rooms. But we just can't manage that. Here we again hope for the architect’s assistance. We had not yet considered in which direction the doors would open. For now, only that a door fits into the wall. More detailed work would certainly be needed here. We have budgeted 300,000 EUR. The land is already owned. We live in the countryside. We have not taken into account any personal contributions or help from friends.
We do not have children yet.
We specified the following to the architect:
Living room, dining room, kitchen: approx. 55 sqm (of which kitchen approx. 11 sqm), open design, with fireplace facing both directions. Kitchen with cooking island or counter facing the room. Utility room connected to kitchen and garage.
Office: 12-15 sqm
WC: 2 sqm
Hallway: doesn't matter, as small as possible but with enough space for receiving guests
Child 1 and 2: approx. 15 sqm
Bedroom: 12-14 sqm
Bathroom: 14 sqm
Dressing room: approx. 10-12 sqm
Children’s bathroom: approx. 5 sqm
Including the hallway, we should stay under the 160 sqm limit. The utility room of the planned 15 sqm is on top of that. The architect’s first draft is thus not really close to this. And that was the trigger for us to draw ourselves.
In addition, we noted the following points of view (and much more for the interior design):
Construction type: Single-family house
Building style: two full floors, type “urban villa”
with projections / bay windows to loosen up the façade, straight dining and living area
Entrance area as a bay window over both stories
Roof type: Tent or hipped roof
Roof overhang 1m or more
Room height: 2.50 m
Basement: no
Attic: yes, as storage space, no planned conversion
Façade: Plaster (white, off-white, beige/brown) combined with possibly colored dark plaster, brick or element panels (large panels resembling natural stone etc.) on the projections
Garage: a double garage connected to the house (via utility room)
Terraces: yes, south-facing by living and dining rooms as well as kitchen
Balcony: no
Windows: floor-to-ceiling, large, facing the garden
Sliding doors to the garden
also horizontally oriented windows possible
possibly light bands over two floors towards garden and entrance
Blinds: if possible, yes
Stairs: in the entrance area / hallway
solid construction
Technology: LED lighting
Empty conduits throughout the house in sufficient quantity
Data cables -> later smart home
Sockets in window recesses
Interior style: open, bright, few doors
dominated by light colors, dark floors (wood look)
straight-lined
lots of glass
interior walls plastered
Ground floor:
Living, dining, kitchen, guest WC, hallway / stairs, office, utility room
[*]open living-dining-kitchen area, possibly sliding door between living room and dining/kitchen area
[*]kitchen counter pulled into the room as room divider and visual shield to the dining table (or cooking island)
[*]freestanding fireplace / stove at a small partition wall within the living room
Upper floor:
Bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, children’s room 1, children’s room 2, children’s bathroom, storage room
[*]dressing room next to bathroom and bedroom as a unit
[*]small storage room for vacuum cleaner etc.
[*]children’s rooms and bathroom are only built out if needed
Do you think it is better to go into the meeting without our floor plan, even though we really already have detailed wishes for parts of the house? The floor plan is definitely not perfect and not the absolute wisdom. For every problem area we are open to solutions. We just wanted to outline the style, the type of construction, the rough layout with it.