Floor plan opinions single-family house 140 sqm 2 full floors

If there is a development plan, there is also a building envelope. Show us the plan of the property with the building envelope. Answers to questions are helpful.

I don’t believe that. Your real problem is that you find it hard to decide and get neither from the planner nor from us the certainty you need for it.

I can understand that this is overwhelming at first and then annoying, especially since some arguments are so good that they seem to set you back in your decision-making. Then the feeling arises: "I ask for help and get more question marks."

Ultimately, it makes no sense to resist the complexity of a construction project. That a group in the forum cannot unanimously guide you to gain decision certainty is inherent to the system. I am grateful to have received some ideas here, but the basics were discussed by my wife and me together with our architect, and we took a lot of time for it. We talked very little about floor plans but much more about how we want to live. We are the experts on our life. We brought in this expertise and the architect understood it well. We would never have been able to create the floor plan that we now have and like ourselves.

Of course, that was my intention. If everyone had found it good, it would simply have been a confirmation.
But also to get considerations to change weak points. And I think I’m actually trying to address it.

The problem is just that points are raised, but no solutions are suggested as examples. It helps me little if I do not see and understand how it could be.

Using the example of the staircase. I understand the criticism of the straight staircase. And I’m not clueless and have done more research here in particular in the forum. There is a post that closely resembles the ordinary floor plan. There, the creator changed the floor plan from 140sqm to 150sqm because of a quarter-turn staircase. Attached are the pictures. You’re not allowed to post links.



In this post, the creator switched from 9.5x9.5 to 10.10x9.5. Why? Because the quarter-turn staircase simply requires more hallway width. I tried to implement it myself, but then I create 2 corridors on the sides on the ground floor. So even worse.

Also, the wardrobe is missing here. With the straight staircase, my ground floor plan below is significantly more relaxed, though of course somewhat different upstairs. I like the one in this picture better there.

But this is exactly where you see my problem. The dimensions should stay at 140sqm. I do not want to go up to 150sqm. But to have a good ground floor and a narrower hallway compared to the quarter-turn staircase, I need a straight staircase. Upstairs I have a narrow bathroom but I’d have to live with that.

And this is exactly where I want to start. I’m happy to be convinced. Only I need an example and not just the sentence “quarter-turn is more space-saving.” I do not see that in this example. Then it has to be shown to me.

This was symbolic for the staircase. Otherwise, the floor plan is very similar. Instead of an office, we just have a pantry.

The Bayernatlas is unfortunately no longer helpful here. The free version no longer even offers the depiction of property boundaries. That was such a good tool. It now costs 40 euros per month. :mad:

I have slightly adjusted a draft from the internet.
The original has a bay window which, in my opinion, is dispensable.

I have slightly adapted a draft from the internet.





The original has a bay window which, in my opinion, is unnecessary.

There is a design that is very similar in the ordinary floor plan.

No, actually not, if you leave out the standard - kitchen, WC, open living space, stairs - in the single-family house. The difference in the standard single-family house sector always lies in the details. Here you can see a walk-in closet, an open space, and a 4th room, which makes the house bigger. You don’t want that at all. Besides, there is a different orientation of the plot.

Why? Because the quarter-turn staircase simply requires more hallway width.

Here you have a completely different winding, which requires more space at the top.

By the way, internal links may be placed here.

I tried to implement it for me, but then I create 2 narrow corridors on the sides on the ground floor. So even worse.

You have the two narrow corridors in your original draft on page 1, if I may remind you.

The problem is just that points are mentioned, but no solutions are suggested as examples.

I posted two drafts on page 5 or 6.
Also, all the rough floor plans of the following gable roof houses are suitable for you, if you then raise the knee wall accordingly, you get roughly 140 sqm.

- almost all smaller Viebrockhaus Maxime and V-houses,

- From Scanhaus Marlow almost all variants of the SH 122 somewhat enlarged,
- The SH 116 about one meter wider,
- The SH 142 D
(With the SH 145 knee wall you have the same bad situation as in your design, that two narrow areas result)

- Weberhaus with its Sunshine series
- Town & Country with the Landhaus 142 as well as the smaller ones (note then with higher knee wall)
Heinz von Heiden have declined in their series, I won’t mention them.
- And many more.

Basically, any standard floor plan fits you if you just adjust the house dimensions accordingly. And you can easily stay around +/- 140 sqm.
The problem is, if you squeeze a pantry into the rearmost corner so that the kitchen is no longer furnishable and thus does not work. Or if you attach it to a side entrance. But all of that has already been mentioned.

And I'm not stupid and have continued looking, especially here in the forum. There is a post that is very similar in the ordinary floor plan. There, the creator changed the floor plan from 140sqm to 150sqm due to a quarter-turn staircase. Attached are the pictures. You are not allowed to post links.

... of course you are allowed to, if it is like here a link to another post within the forum: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/einfamilienhaus-130-140-m-grundriss-planung.32945/page-27#post-370945