Floor plan new two-story single-family house 200 m²

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HaseUndIgel

2024-12-28 23:00:14
  • #1


I am a bit puzzled now. When I say that we "like" it that way, it is not meant to be about "liking". When I then specify that we have already thought about who could use the bathroom how much, how often, and in what constellation, and in relation to that, who should clean it how often and with how much effort, then a decision based on that no longer has anything to do with "living and life".

I get the feeling that there is a lack of understanding that other people have different ideas of "living and life" and could also be satisfied and happy in different ways than oneself.



Thank you! We will definitely need it!
 

ypg

2024-12-28 23:18:42
  • #2

Not at all. I help a lot and gladly – also or especially those who have nothing to do with my way of life or want or need the home differently. I rarely come uninvited with sentences like "this is how we do it, you have to do it too, just look." But for some, the basis simply doesn’t work, so I can’t help.
 

HaseUndIgel

2024-12-28 23:53:29
  • #3


Yes, your opinion on this can be found in many places on the internet, and I’ve read some of your other posts on the topic. Are you actually the originator of the term "Anstattvilla"? Because I actually find it very fitting.



That’s probably true, especially the straight staircase is apparently really only efficient to accommodate if you plan around it from the start and don’t have dozens of other requirements for the entrance area. A Harry-Potter-closet would at least create storage space, but we don’t want that either.




That’s certainly good advice. Now the "but":
But what I observe here in this thread and in others is that it often also comes down to what one “should want” and that builders set the wrong priorities.

Of course, I also like to read proposals on how it is believed that one should live in one’s house here. Only, here the professional really has no advantage over the OP, except perhaps in life experience as such. In this respect, there is certainly some truth, due to the age difference I once suspected between us and some of you. But we also have many “more experienced in living” people in our environment, with whom we talk about the planning, and with such questions, we honestly trust their advice more.

The floor-to-ceiling windows in the bedrooms are such a topic. My wife and I wouldn’t mind that. We know that because we’ve already gotten used to it. But that the kids might see it differently is certainly true, and that’s why I have that aspect re-planned. Thanks to everyone who brought it up again and again!

But whether the straight staircase is more important to me than saving space that amounts to 10,000, 20,000, or even 30,000 EUR, whether I prefer to clean two washbasin faucets instead of one, or whether I want to put my dirty kids in the shower downstairs or upstairs, of course only we can assess that in the end. And that based on how we intend to live in the house.

Therefore, feel free to keep the advice on such topics coming, but please don’t be offended if the answer then is: No, we’d rather do it differently. These are individual decisions.



I don’t harbor any illusions about that (well, maybe a little). The first plan was not perfect. The last plan I posted is better, but it’s not much closer to perfection either. Perfection would be if all our current and future needs were met. Even for the next 5 years it’s already hard enough to separate what is really a "need" and what is just a "wish without deeper benefit."

Even if I tell myself that the Anstattvilla emerged from the needs and external circumstances almost by immaculate conception, that would of course be wrong. Many aspects of the planning simply arise from our limited inventory of possible solutions, garnished with internet trends and what one sees around oneself.
I’m sure 11ant could sing a song about that because that applies to so many plans in this and other forums.

Only, and that is the decisive thing, it is good enough for us. Good enough for the development plan, good enough for the budget, good enough for how we want to live in it. I enjoy tinkering with it further, and I don’t want to exclude a complete replanning, but currently I wouldn’t know what bothers us enough about the floor plan to justify that. That is certainly also because I only know the mediocrity of single-family house architecture.
But changing that will not be achieved by a "there is a lot of wasted space" argument. But maybe someone here knows another thread where in the end something came out that was better than "catalog quality." If I experience an aha effect in that regard, that would certainly be a reason to try it again from scratch. Therefore, I would be happy about a nudge in that direction.
 

ypg

2024-12-29 00:32:21
  • #4
But you can browse and read yourself, right?! Unfortunately, very few here share what has become of the forum house. You probably won't do it either.
 

11ant

2024-12-29 01:35:01
  • #5


With the term Anstattvilla I allow myself a small ironic dig at the fact that with the building type of the trendy sugar-cube building form, in my opinion, the suppliers mock the residential wishes of the aspiring petty bourgeois by bombarding them with fake nobility key appeals. Just pay attention to the typical computer renderings in advertising, where these little houses stand as solitary buildings in parks (instead of realistically having three meters on each side of the fence and a whole house width distance to the picture edge, under the carport pergola at least one BMW Z Roadster is parked), a ceiling-high knee wall together with a large package of French balconies included in the base price all around symbolize an excellent price-envy factor ratio and so forth.

The stiff-axled staircase divides the floor plan into two riverbanks. If this axis is continued by a dining table, at least one "bay window" is preprogrammed and with it the next bonus point in building fashion bingo is scored. Now just a T-bathroom and Klaus Lage would sing "Man, here you are really loved." I hold back on opinions about how "one" is supposed to live. However, with my four decades of experience in home planning, I have insights into what makes sense where that often stand in strong contrast to the Pinterest world of many dreamers. Regarding the wrong priorities, I already said earlier that the confessions of repeat builders should be weighted twice as heavily here compared to the speculations of the average audience joker.

Personally, I am a self-proclaimed renter and pass on my professional experience in the popularly understandable translation of general architectural design principles, gladly also in formats like the basement rule, the Barthel tips or the Stein mantra; due to my generation, I am a mouse watcher from day one (and a Birkenbihl follower). And so that the world does not have to be healed by my nature alone, I also always like to mention the diversity of my building consultant colleagues. As a former window manufacturer and later dealer, I have also stood on the supplier side of the construction industry. "My" house is built of pumice stone, the laughing third party in the singer's dispute between aerated concrete and porous bricks. Ceterum censeo, the roof form "mansard roof" also undeservedly leads a shadowy existence.
 

MachsSelbst

2024-12-29 08:09:45
  • #6


Why should they? After building a house, there is enough to do... do students share with their teacher what has become of them?
 

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