Our floor plan of 120 sqm on a 469 sqm plot

Apparently people from the East are also satisfied with less. and now you can hate me as much as you want.

Now I have to write something about this again. Please leave out this stupid East-West discussion. There are enough users here who also come from East Germany. By the way, I myself am a proud Wossi. Nobody hates you, by the way, and nobody wants to harm YOU.

Topic laundry drying (lastly): In a rented apartment you must make compromises. If you don't like the compromise, you look for another apartment and move out. But if you build yourself, you try to do it in such a way that you make as few compromises as possible. When building your own home, you only get one chance to do it right (unless, as mentioned above, you want to build three times).

Already sad what level is being displayed here...
... once again a sad result of wasting time...

Care for a cup of tea?

Would you like a cup of tea?

Oh yes, I'll have one Please with valerian - my blood pressure needs to calm down first ...

there is a storage room available!!!

The storage room under the stairs? OK, can you imagine that in 3D? The room is as wide as the door (90 cm). Stand in a door frame and you'll know how wide that is. Where exactly do you want to put a shelf now? Store drink crates? And still enter the room? Besides the fact that it is only sufficiently high in the front area, in the back area the stairs run into it.

Everyone calm again? We posted it here to have certain things explained to us again by others. No problem. We listen to everything. We also don’t want to attack anyone. But we just don’t like it when the measurements are not read correctly. When we have to explain everything a hundred times even though it is visible in the floor plan. As you can see, we have already taken some things into account. Done differently from the first time. We also asked five times if the layout is okay. With the architect as well as our real estate agent. And the issue of laundry is the least important for us. Just as an example. We currently have a 75 sqm apartment and a 4 sqm basement where the car tires are stored along with two bicycles and a few boxes. Of course, there is more to deal with in a house. That’s why we are planning to build a shed over the area behind the carport. At the moment, we store drinks in our 3.80 m kitchen unit. As you can see, the kitchen is now larger and was also planned yesterday. All other tools are currently stored in our hallway furniture, which will then go into the storage room in the house. A stroller also fits under the rest of the stairs.

This is a rough summary of how we have thought about everything.

Hope it is now understandable and clear that we don’t mean any harm to anyone here. But maybe sometimes a thread that has been quiet for a while should be read again from the beginning to understand some things.

So thank you and best regards from Erfurt

Hello,

such bickering honestly is increasingly getting on my nerves...

You have asked questions about your floor plan, you have received meaningful answers. They don't have to please you, but the HBF is by no means a wish concert because of that!

as it was explained to us, the plaster is only applied to the wall from the outside and a thin layer on the inside because it is supposed to be a diffusion-open masonry.

There is still a 1 cm plaster applied all around. In this small "room" you will rely on every cm; but I also do not understand the architect here. In my opinion, he should know better how much space the gas condensing boiler, buffer storage, electricity/water connections and required pipes take up. I already feel sorry for the installer when he has to maintain or replace a part.

By the way, what does he say about the window areas in the attic?

just by the way. with the utility room I can still accept everything written here. but to raise such a fuss about drying laundry is incomprehensible to me.
and our real estate agent, architect and entire family also say the same about the laundry drying topic.

Just by the way – either you have your period or you just picked a bad day? I have read the entire thread – not one of the users has been rude to you; everyone has maintained their objective attitude. And about "raising a fuss" over the explanation that laundry is supposed to be dried in the living room – I would rather say, you have no clue what you are getting yourself into. And with all due respect – your real estate agent and your architect want to sell. They do not care at all if your site manager later points out the additional costs that arise because the planned utility room currently won’t work, cannot work. Does your budget allow for that?

Since you wrote at one point "more house is not possible" (which is by no means a flaw, for every builder their investment is a significant investment – regardless of the actual number at the end), you should be grateful that – basically strangers – point out the weaknesses of your planning; they don’t get paid for it, but gladly and openly share their experience with you. You repay them with hormone-driven behavior.

Your floor plan on the ground floor is quite easy to change; I have attached my idea for you. You have the choice to enter the utility room either via an interior sliding door through the kitchen or also through the storage room under the stairs; the headroom should suffice. With this arrangement of the utility room, you also create a direct access from the car to the utility room, without having to walk around a corner first. The previous utility room can then be converted into a laundry/drying room.

Regarding drying in the living room – aside from the fact that I personally wouldn’t feel like having a clothes rack standing in the living area forever, you bring additional moisture into the house in addition to the 8 liters/moisture/day that occur anyway in a normal household. You don’t get rid of that by heating or only at high energy expenditure. Then the moisture additionally settles at the coldest spot, which is usually the window. Do you really want to live in constant fog?

As you rightly wrote, the ground floor is tight, which – again – is not a flaw. BUT – children’s toys, your own stuff and drying rack – where do you want to live?

Apparently, people from the East are also satisfied with less. and now you can hate me as much as you want.

You are talking nonsense and should reconsider your box thinking.

in the end everyone will also say that 250,000 for such a house is never enough pricewise

No one said that; not even me and that should actually make you think. Take Yvonne’s advice and drink tea, coffee or for that matter something stronger; in the 18th century that was still normal and by no means frowned upon, if it happened at a time considered inappropriate “today.”

Addendum:

I forgot this in my reply just now. If you find this variant worth reconsidering, of course the bathroom in the attic should be moved to the opposite side and swapped with the children’s room.

Rhenish greetings