It’s not about taste, nor about my kitchen. Nor about my work tools. When I plan floor plans here in the forum, it’s not for me, but for the OP. Hence also the questionnaire.
My kitchen should and cannot contribute to the discussion at all, as we built a house for two. However, I took the length as an example. And yes, you asked about it: it looks different now because we had to build an extension. There was no more space for the dishwasher, even though we had 180 cm of 60 cm cabinets next to the sink for putting down and preparing. Without counting the island. What will it be like for you?
No, it’s not about your kitchen. But based on your kitchen, I can assess you a bit better than before. That allows me to better evaluate your tips. Much of what is said here is not objective but influenced by personal perception. Of course, there are also objective things (e.g. everyone walks between island and row – it’s the shortest way), but many points can also be influenced by personal taste.
Part of the compromise. Actually, a compromise should be a subordinate part of an almost very nice functional house. has very nicely shown that your work area is also your "hallway" in the open-plan room.
Explain to me how the Christmas baking should take place when three other people are either playing, doing homework at the dining area, doing daily chores like laundry (ground floor/upper floor), etc.: You stand and sit in each other's way. That simply cannot be argued away.
It’s true that the shortest path from the entrance/stairs to the extension will always go through the work area in this layout. I’m not yet sure whether it really bothers me that much. If someone is just unloading the dishwasher, you can also walk around. Again the question: Does anyone have such a setup and hate it?
I can understand the rest of the argument. Sounds stressful. But I can’t base the basic design entirely on extreme situations (baking and homework! – I think that would wear me out in any kitchen constellation). I also don’t drive a bus if I have to take more than 4 people sometimes.
So far you have lived as a couple. Now there is offspring… something else is still planned… living as two or with a baby is different than as four with teenagers.
The little one is not that small anymore either. Some experience with three exists. Of course, I can’t yet estimate how bad it will be with teenagers. I thought by now they would be low-maintenance. If there is Wi-Fi, just put them somewhere in a corner with their phone. Maybe under the stairs would be suitable. I still haven’t fully understood what should be different. Let me try if I got your points right here: 1. Work surface is too small. 2. There is a lack of storage space. 3. The walking paths are not liked because you often walk behind the island.
I would rather make sure that light comes into the house. And yes, the sun is also sometimes good. Especially in winter. At the dining area, where playing and homework are watched over, sufficient daylight is also good...
Yes, I think that is already a conclusion I am grateful for and that we will change. More light must come in from the SE. Does anyone have experience how to solve this elegantly without being completely open to the street? Is a high strip of windows enough?
That was a sentence with X :p
Too bad that this impression comes across. I can promise that I’ll reconsider everything. You can’t always come to the same conclusion (especially since discussion (exchange of pros and cons in several rounds) seems to be somewhat frowned upon here ;-))
Enough criticism: make something out of it!
Maybe I’ll still get around to drawing your kitchen for you or making some more concrete suggestions.
I’d be glad – but please without a crooked island ;-P
P.S. For me, the house unfortunately has little to do with an atrium bungalow. The extension/hall/office lacks a terrace door with a nice view into the courtyard, which would also bring daylight from the SW.
Hey, the atrium stuff came from you. The L-shape is enough for me. But the idea of the window door in the office is great. That will be taken into consideration. Thank you! I think I would also pull it a bit further toward the end of the room so that you can look out from the desk.