Floor plan evaluation single-family house 147m2 gable roof with extension

1.5 does not exist. That’s 2 floors.

Okay, good to know. Doesn't it have to be more than 75% from the bottom to count as 2 floors? That wouldn’t be the case here, or do you not count the annex?

You basically pushed everything to the last square meter that is possible. I hope that the floor area ratio II (exceeding the floor area ratio by 50% for ancillary buildings) is not excluded for you?!
Otherwise, it will be too much… I just roughly calculated everything.

Good question, FAR II does not appear in the development plan. I will have to ask the architect again. In general, the neighbors use significantly more space on their plots. So I would be surprised if it doesn’t fit.

Regarding the design
my first impression: I like it. Basically a nice idea, also the slim silhouette… living room at the end, I once planned like this too and found out that with the two entrances to the living room you waste a lot of valuable space.
The wasted space with you could be really useful for the kitchen.
With the light switch, you get a kitchen unit of about 2.60/2.70 m. That will be tight with an eye-level oven and refrigerator. A side-by-side will never be possible. There is hardly any storage space on the unit for somewhat taller items, electrical appliances, or opened beverage bottles. The jam-and-bread cutting board will be centrally located in the house… then it will be placed on the island, which, however, will be too much in the way again. At least for small children and distracted parents.

That would probably be the time to start kitchen planning in more detail. Basically, the plan is to have a kitchen unit on one side of the pantry where most of the electrical appliances will be installed. The unit in the main room is supposed to be relatively "clean". I hadn’t thought so far that the kitchen might become too small. I had already considered reducing the size of the island because I don’t really know what to do with the space. Good wake-up call to dig deeper here. What is the problem if things are placed from the table onto the island? That’s how it is currently and I actually find it quite practical.

Living room: To avoid the problem with the free space in the living room, you would basically have to completely redesign or would you only remove one of the passages? That’s how it was planned in the first draft. But then the living room seemed too closed off to us. I have to say, free space is also a bit of a luxury – I don’t have to use everything (but of course if it is missing elsewhere it’s nonsense).

If you want to combine the utility room with the annex, I would set the door in the annex.

I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. Current plan would be to swap pantry and utility room and make one room out of utility room and HAR without access to the pantry. HAR access remains. HAR is currently at the front because the architect says one can save some connection costs that way (close to the street). I actually quite like that. Do people really use the toilet so often when they have their shoes on?

NW is the big window: with that, you have a pitch-black dining room and kitchen. In summer you get a few rays into the house in the evening.
Only the additional hallway and the living room are on the “chocolate” side of the house. And people tend to spend less time in the living room during summer… so the whole orientation isn’t really that great.

Good point. A bit of light should come from above via the staircase (something still has to be done with the window size here). I had already considered adding more windows at the stairs. The entrance area definitely needs some light too. I don’t like the southeast side yet anyway.

I recently saw a house in a documentary that mainly used north-facing windows. Apparently, it provides particularly even light and is not necessarily too dark.

And I notice about the roof orientation: the ridge direction should lie parallel to the street for you. The neighbors have the orientation as required by the development plan.

The ridge lies parallel to the street as required. The entrance door is on the street side. Is it stated differently somewhere? I know there is no north arrow on the floor plan but the elevations show where what is and the aerial photos are oriented north.

So there is still quite a bit to do.
Nevertheless, I’ll insert my objections in sketch form.

Why would you put the bedroom on the south side? Usually, you want to avoid that and put the children there (as it was before). Together with the ridge direction I have the impression that I didn’t make it quite clear how the house is positioned on the plot. As said, the side with the entrance door lies parallel to the street towards the southeast.

(Toilet quite far from the entrance… that can also backfire ;)… and by the way, you knock over the bottles on the kitchen island… I don’t want to discourage you… but it’s impractical for daily routine.

It is definitely unusual. I urgently have to pay attention to how often the bathroom is used before going out. I actually found the idea quite interesting to put it there and possibly equip it with a skylight.

Edit? The 63e windows are really too narrow… the molding is thicker than the glass.

Yes, I see that now too. Up front, I could also well imagine a large one in the middle to illuminate the staircase. In the back, I would like to replace the two garden windows by one large one (similar to the kitchen).

And I notice regarding the roof orientation: the ridge direction should be parallel to the street on your side. The neighbors have the orientation as prescribed by the development plan.

Sorry, I was mistaken there. Everything is correct!

Good question, GRZII does not appear in the development plan.

The 50% rule is probably mentioned somewhere :)

Doesn't it have to be over 75% from below to have 2 floors?

It has to be more than 75%... depends on the federal state... with your roof pitch and knee wall, the attic is a full floor. so you have two floors.

That wouldn't be the case here, or do you not count the extension?

The extension is counted, yes. … oh, I didn't calculate that now. :rolleyes: But you wrote anyway

Number of floors: 2 (according to the development plan)

Basically, the plan is to have a kitchen line on one side in the storage room where most of the electrics will be housed. The line in the main room should be relatively "clean."

Then start thinking about what a kitchen looks like in everyday life with two children. Clean is cool, but not practical for everyday use.

I had already thought about reducing the size of the island because I don't know what to do with the space.

You probably have nothing to do with the kitchen and let yourself be cooked for? At least that's how it sounded in the opening post, because you would tolerate the noises.

What's the problem if things are put down from the table onto the island?

I didn't talk about the table, but about things that just stay in the kitchen because they are constantly used there. If you want to store everything in the pantry, you're basically building a show kitchen in the dining room, but have a mini kitchen in the back room (Honey, I can't watch you slave away - please close the door ;) )
We have about 7.80 meters of kitchen length between two of us, of which only about 3 meters are countertop for preparing and placing KVA, knives, etc… In the utility room there is a kitchen line for cleaning supplies and tools, bags, empties and drinks. So, I think you are underestimating the space requirements.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/die-liste-die-jeden-bauherren-zu-interessieren-hat.34418/

Living room: To avoid the problem with the free space in the living room, you'd basically have to completely rearrange or would you just remove one of the passages?

I would start with a 180° staircase turn, with a quarter turn at the start. Whether this satisfactorily solves the problems, I don't believe. I think you don't actually consider how much space is needed for utility and daily work – the more space is available for that, the cleaner the rest stays. If you keep it too small, laundry will eventually always be lying around with the ironing board, nothing from hobbies etc. can be put away and remains lying around and so on. If there is no space for cabinets (kitchen, bedroom, living room / living space), then it will just stay somewhere.
Maybe you should take a look at lived-in and inhabited kitchens in the kitchen thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/kuechenbilder-thread-zeigt-her-eure-Küchen.28518/

I have to say that free space is also a kind of luxury – I don't have to use everything (but of course if it's missing elsewhere it's nonsense). That's how it is, unfortunately.

About the toilet:

It's definitely unusual.

The idea of placing the WC next to the office/guest room is generally logical. However, now everyone who can't fit upstairs because it's tight has to go downstairs through the kitchen. That might not be a problem in the morning for the first one, they can just make coffee right away… ;)

Do people really use the toilet that often while wearing shoes?

I mainly use the toilet when I have to! Whether with or without shoes. Preferably without, if I have to walk through the whole house.
But it could get tight with taking off shoes… especially if it has to be quick. That's where the toilet by the entrance area comes in handy. If you come from gardening, you're also grateful for the short walk to the toilet. So, you might also want to wash your hands first before continuing further into the house and so on…

I recently saw a documentary about a house that mainly relied on north-facing windows. Allegedly particularly even light and not necessarily too dark.

You can't avoid light with this kitchen solution… yes, windows in the southeast would be important here. Still, the kitchen is far too far from a window… if you look closely, the kitchen is not properly planned here at all. It looks like a bar for guests or something in a heavily frequented passage.

Why would you place the bedroom on the south side?

No, I wouldn't. But the bathroom only makes sense there in combination with two equivalent children's rooms. It just turned out like that quickly.

That's something you'd rather avoid otherwise.

Yep!

I believe the idea of the house – living room location, arrangement of the rooms and the L-shape – came from you guys; the architect had to adopt it.
I can't imagine that a proper architect would plan the usable area comparatively that small and place the kitchen in the path like that. It might not weigh so negatively for two people, but a family house looks different.

very nice floor plan, I know such an atrium bungalow from before, very refreshing to see something different, not convoluted, no dark corners, very nice. Don't let anyone talk you out of the floor plan, be brave.

very nice floor plan,

Don't let anyone talk you out of the floor plan, be brave.

So what now? Is it nice and good or do you have to be brave for it to be nice and good, or to see it as such?

I don't think it's good at all. Many points have already been mentioned.
Entrance area (too small / at the utility room), toilet "hidden" (too far away), children's room (a joke in terms of size), dining area is cramped (wall + kitchen unit)…

That already looks like an architect's design to me. Someone hoping to at least get featured in [Schöner Wohnen] with it. ;) As evelinoz noted, it strongly reminds me of atrium bungalows and also some Case Study House adaptations. A floor plan that is rather suited for 50 sqm more in order to create wall closets and other built-ins for the desired look. You really have to be minimalist and disciplined, and that also applies to children (who are born maximalist and chaotic), so that you don’t see chaos and makeshift solutions everywhere. It would be better for me if the entrance were at the office and you would pass the extension wing past the bathroom and pantry to reach the private area. Instead of, as it is now, going through the private living hall to the office, pantry, and bathroom. The kitchenette as the main traffic axis is not a good idea.