Bungalow 135 sqm: Floor plan + windows

Is it optimized or taken into account?

I don’t know. I hope the planner takes something like that into account. It’s basically not my job. But I’ll probably have to double-check it myself.
I also need to bring up the toilet with the planner again – I don’t understand why something like that is drawn in if it’s too small...

Where does it have space?

Well, I have almost 6 sqm of kitchen units now – how much more do I need? In our current apartment, I have 4 meters of kitchen units without upper cabinets. The entire room is only about 4.50 x 2.30 m (I’d have to measure again)... that’s what I can orient myself by. And I’m happy that it will already be bigger in the future.

Because rooms are defined and planned, yes. Room length stays the same.

Well, certainly because of the placement of the furniture. But it’s not like people have a little corner or something inside, right, or am I wrong?

And yes, I would also wish that the planner would draw in the furniture, but he doesn’t because from his point of view it doesn’t matter for the building permit. It took me weeks until the couch was drawn in with the correct measurements. Of course, the kitchen is now also drawn in incorrectly – it’s also annoying to chase after that... so I just sketch it myself on paper and leave it incomplete in the planner’s plan.

Always!... ... Whoops: I totally followed your design and your thoughts (just like I do with almost everyone) and ONLY corrected the mistakes. I myself would have designed a totally different house despite the same conditions like couple, childless, spacious, etc., aside from that. But it’s your house... so I’m out.

This is not meant as an attack. I’m grateful for any help. The building permit is supposed to be submitted next week, and I’m starting to feel like I’m making a huge mistake and have planned a total disaster, that I have an idiot as a planner and a general contractor who has no clue. It’s just not a great feeling to have to settle something final now.

I don’t know. I hope the planner takes that into account. It’s basically not my job.

Of course. The general contractor doesn’t know how much importance you place on the sofa and kitchen area.

I’ll have to talk to the planner about the bathroom again – I don’t understand why something like that is drawn in if it’s too small...

Because you presented it to him like that and he just traced it! Maybe you have a reason for a bathroom without a window ;(

Well, I now have just under 6 sqm of kitchen unit – how much more do I need? I currently have 4 meters without upper cabinets.

It’s not about the drawn length. You haven’t even drawn two tall cabinets for fridge and oven yet... uh...

Well, sure, because of the furniture placement. But it’s not like people all have a corner unit or something, or am I wrong?

Luckily not

The planner doesn’t draw in the furniture because from his point of view it’s irrelevant for the building permit.

But it can’t be irrelevant to you.

The kitchen is now also drawn incorrectly –

Oh...

drawn – it’s also annoying to have to chase after it afterward... d

? You don’t have to if kitchen, dining table, sofa, and TV are arranged in a row. Somehow there will be space in 8 meters of length

This is not an attack. I’m grateful for any help.

You haven’t accepted it so far.

My building permit is supposed to be submitted next week, and I’m getting the feeling that I’m making a huge mistake and have planned a total disaster, that I have an idiot as a planner and a general contractor who has no clue. It’s not a great feeling when you have to make some final decisions now.

Yeah, well... we can also happily start over again, but preferably without me. My contributions to the floor plan are visible.

Just briefly mentioned again: I wish you all the best. But it seems to me as if we are starting all over again. And I’m definitely out of that, because I invested time and believed it was well spent.

Of course. The general contractor doesn’t know how much space you value for sofa and kitchen.

But this was about the window area compared to the facade area, right? What does that have to do with sofa, kitchen, etc.? We already told the planner the space we planned for sofa, kitchen, etc.… like that I need at least 4m from sofa to wall, etc.

Because you presented it to him that way and he traced it! Maybe you have a reason for a windowless WC ;(

Well, nowadays with ventilation systems that’s ultimately not really a problem. It works like that in office buildings and so on. But sure, I hadn’t considered that. I guess we will just leave out the WC then.

This isn’t about drawn-in length. You haven’t even drawn in two tall cabinets for fridge and oven yet… uh…

No, why do we have to draw that for the building application? As I said, the general contractor never draws furniture/inventory correctly anyway.

You haven’t accepted that until now.

Your suggestion:

[*]Make the windows bigger! I did that
[*]Make the bedroom wall straight for the kitchen! I did that
[*]Move the storage room to the kitchen! I did that
[*]Plan the wardrobe at 60cm! I did that
[*]...

What we didn’t implement:

[*]Swap hallway and hobby room, because we think differently and prefer to have living and hobby area together
[*]Corner in the living room – because we want to keep that space.

Sorry that I don’t implement everything. That doesn’t mean I’m not grateful for the tips and ideas.

Well, okay… we can gladly start over again, but preferably without me. My contributions to the floor plan are apparent.

No, I don’t have time to start over and I don’t intend to. It’s okay now. I just hope I haven’t built a disaster house...

No, why do we have to draw this for the building application?

Probably not for the application, but for you guys: later something won't fit anymore and can then be permanently annoying,

No, I don't have time to start over.

Laugh...

Well, in times of ventilation systems that's ultimately not really a problem. It also works like that in office buildings etc. But sure, I hadn't considered that. I guess we'll just leave out the WC then.

Cool consequence:
Client draws something in the wrong place. Drafter adopts that, a third party criticizes it, resulting in the client being annoyed and leaving it out.
I’d like to have clients like that too

Your suggestion:

[*]Make the windows bigger! I did that
[*]Make the bedroom wall bigger! I did that
[*]Move the storage room next to the kitchen! I did that
[*]Plan the cloakroom at 60cm! I did that
[*]...

Look, it’s not my design... you’re not doing me any favors!

You, it’s not my draft... you’re not doing me any favors!

Well then I have to ask: why do you first complain that I don’t accept your help. So if I now list how I actually did accept it, it suddenly doesn’t matter.

That’s absolutely fine with me But with that, I’m out here. I’m currently really not willing to deal with such pseudo-/empty arguments. Because that doesn’t help me at all right now