Floor plan critique - Single-family house on a hill

  • Erstellt am 2018-03-01 23:12:07

Zaba12

2018-03-09 07:35:27
  • #1
200m² living space with 100m² basement (partly residential basement).
You are four, right?

Intuitively, since I am not familiar with such dimensions, I wouldn’t see a 55... price tag for this house. I mean, with that generosity you definitely didn’t plan €30 for flooring etc. Also, the 2x 4m lift-and-slide doors can only be installed with a crane.
You have so many positions where you have additional costs solely because of the dimensions that it hurts my eyes.

However, I really like the living room.

Is it even possible to sell or rent out such a house later in the countryside?
And I don’t mean a forced sale, but if work/life plans take a different path?
 

86bibo

2018-03-09 11:38:49
  • #2
I quite like the idea of the ground floor. We also have the dining room and living room separated and are quite happy with it. At first glance, the living room looks pretty small, but that’s only because of the overall size of the floor. However, it is a dark room during the day, and in the evening you have to close the shutters because otherwise the sun shines directly on the TV. So if you only use the room as a TV room, that’s okay; if it’s supposed to be your family living room, then it wouldn’t be for me. I would also see the risk that a TV might be placed in the kitchen/dining area as well, and the actual living room might be forgotten or turned into a playroom. For thermal reasons alone, I would also put a door on the pantry. If the dining room is also the main living room for family and guests, you always have a direct view of the kitchen area or enter the room through it. So you are always forced to tidy up right after cooking (would annoy us a lot, but it’s a matter of taste).

Of course, you can think about having a sleeping area in the basement. It’s pleasantly cool in summer, easily heated in winter, and you don’t really need a view there. I would find a bright office more important if it is used regularly. You’re also closer to the children’s rooms, which can be an advantage. Regardless, I would also consider a toilet in the basement. Depending on what is planned for the hobby room, that could make sense.

In my opinion, the upper floor has completely gone wrong. The children’s rooms simply belong in the south or southwest. So far, you haven’t given any counterarguments as to why you don’t want to do it that way. The best location goes to the bathroom!!! The second-best spot goes to the dressing room, and the bedroom is a showcase open on all sides? How do you intend to create privacy there? In my view, that only makes sense if you have an extremely exhibitionistic tendency. Bedroom 2 is, in my opinion, the only successful room on the upper floor, although with the door position and the windows’ position, there is not exactly generous space for furniture despite almost 17m². Plus, the neighbor can easily look into the bed, and the shooting slit to the north makes the desk area quite dark. It is anyway the darkest room on the whole floor. Bedroom 1 is totally off with the setback. Also, you can already see on the sketch that the only closet space protrudes into the north window. The space for furniture is limited here as well, and the desk is badly placed. Another arrangement doesn’t really fit either. If you want to put a sofa or a large bed in there, how should the room be divided? Or does the desk have to go then?

The children’s bathroom is obviously a disgrace for a house of this size, but that has already been mentioned. On the other hand, the parents’ bathroom is absolutely oversized. The partitioning of the toilet also puzzles me in a purely parents’ bathroom. With 20m², I wouldn’t sit in a 1.5m² toilet. Moreover, the extra sink is absolutely pointless. We have a mini sink like that in our guest bathroom, and I would never wash my hands there if a double sink is just 3m away. Also, those things flood the entire room. The bathtub is also just thrown into the room and furthermore belongs in a child-accessible room. They usually use it much more often than the parents. How often do you actually take a bath yourself? The sauna would be perfect for you in the basement as well. It doesn’t take away living space upstairs, and there is an access to the outside. Even if you make an access to the garage (the terrace there, for example, requires permission), you first have to go through the dressing room and bedroom to stand half-naked on the freely visible garage, which is located on a hill. With binoculars, people from the whole village could admire you.

The exterior is also not really my taste. The garage is too high and too far forward on the property, the carport is too low. Why do I need a window in the stairwell where no light comes in anyway because of the parked car and the roof (north side)? Why is the garage 5.5m wide? That’s too little for two cars but extremely wide for one. You’ve got a storage room for equipment etc. behind it, right? In the south, you already have a lot of glass surface. Is the pantry really supposed to get a floor-to-ceiling window? If you write your shopping list on the terrace, you can check the inventory directly; otherwise, I find that very odd. A floor-to-ceiling window in the dressing room also makes no sense to me at all. The same goes for a floor-to-ceiling window in front of which I put a sofa. In the dining area, you have no space for furniture because of your showcase windows. Where will the children’s puzzles, board games, or the small ones’ toys be stored if they are supposed to mainly stay in the living areas with you? Where are they supposed to play anyway? A Playmobil corner already takes up quite a bit of space.
 

86bibo

2018-03-09 11:55:16
  • #3
I have the feeling that you are building yourselves a "parent house" that is 100% tailored to you with all the amenities. Because, coincidentally, there are still children, the remaining space is used for the children's rooms. As a crowning touch, you don't want them to have their own bathroom either, so they get a standard 6m² wet cell, while the parents enjoy their 4m² shower and can play hide and seek in the dressing room. You have 60m² + office + hobby room + 30m² experience kitchen and your children have to make do with a total of about 40m². Personally, I think the priorities are absolutely wrong here. From this perspective, I can well imagine that the children will look for their own place early. Although the children's rooms here are larger than in many other building projects, there is still the feeling that they are actually just a nuisance and at the bottom of the priority list.

With 200m² + 50m² living basement, I would have many ideas on how to spatially separate the parents' and children's areas for the teenage years. There would be great solutions on how to realize their own separate domain, or possibly even a kind of granny flat if one of them stays at home during university.
 

saar2and

2018-03-09 12:43:05
  • #4
Well, I see it exactly the other way around. You build for yourself and not for the children. That’s why I also think it’s good that your plans are designed for you and not for the children. And it’s not like there’s no space for the children. They even have their own bathroom.

The children can build their own house.
 

ypg

2018-03-09 12:56:11
  • #5


Well, I would say that a young family or couple builds the house for the family. After all, they will live with the children under the same roof for at least 2 decades and have to put up with them. Sunlight in the bedroom is of little use, and a panoramic window in the bedroom, bathroom, or dressing room isn't either. In this respect, one can estimate that much was not really thought through. Many opinions here are good: for the OP it means picking the best parts for themselves.
 

86bibo

2018-03-09 14:05:34
  • #6


I think that's nonsense (my opinion, please don't take it personally). Even if the children don't contribute a cent to the repayment and (presumably) will eventually move out, their needs should be equally considered alongside the adults', or you shouldn't make the "adult planning" at the expense of the children. The children do not have their own bathroom, they have an emergency bathroom so they don't disturb the adults in the luxury bathroom. To me, that's a big difference. Therefore, as a protest, I would regularly go to the toilet at night. When the pipes are inside the wall, even a solid wall doesn't provide sufficient soundproofing. I find the very fact that the children's bathroom is closer to the bedroom than the parents' bathroom "debatable."

There is no area on the ground floor where the children can play around, and the entrance area is undersized for 4 people. To me, the house seems as if it was designed for a childless couple and then a few square meters were quickly taken away for children's rooms.
 

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